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Old 05-11-2018, 09:52 AM
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Looking at American & Delta's sites, and it appears that the only thing that is required is for the gun to be in a locked hard side container, and unloaded, with all ammo stored in either factory boxes or a cartridge box (as opposed to in the magazines). Also have to declare at the gate. Plan is to put the gun in a small lockable box, with a security cable to attach it to my checked bag. Gun box would be inside the checked bag, and declared. I see nothing regarding any additional cost over and above the standard checked baggage fee. Anyone know the details?

Flown a couple of times with a long gun, but never a hand gun. Heading out of town on business in a few weeks, and destination is definitely one where I will want to be carrying. Reciprocity is no issue.
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Never use to be, but it's been awhile. Call to be sure, but if they did charge, it seems you would find the fee easily? Was always told not to layover or even set a foot down in New York, though.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Looking at American & Delta's sites, and it appears that the only thing that is required is for the gun to be in a locked hard side container, and unloaded, with all ammo stored in either factory boxes or a cartridge box (as opposed to in the magazines). Also have to declare at the gate. Plan is to put the gun in a small lockable box, with a security cable to attach it to my checked bag. Gun box would be inside the checked bag, and declared. I see nothing regarding any additional cost over and above the standard checked baggage fee. Anyone know the details?

Flown a couple of times with a long gun, but never a hand gun. Heading out of town on business in a few weeks, and destination is definitely one where I will want to be carrying. Reciprocity is no issue.
I have flown with long guns and pistols. The procedure is the same. What I don't know about is the security cable attached to your checked bag. I believe it has to be a "stand alone" case. When I flew with pistols, i just put the pistols in the factory case, locked them and zipped them up in my range bag. Once they send you to the firearms declaration area, they take the bag from you anyways. Just make sure you notify the first agent you see that you need to declare a firearm. I have been sent to the front of the line on a few occasions.
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Never use to be, but it's been awhile. Call to be sure, but if they did charge, it seems you would find the fee easily? Was always told not to layover or even set a foot down in New York, though.
Thankfully going from one non-commie location to another, though the destination is pretty much a shit hole, hence my desire to take along my handgun.
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Super easy, but like everything else, what airport you're flying out of, and what agent you get, may make the experience different from time to time. However, basic process is the same. Handgun must be in a hard sided lockable case. I prefer to use one cable lock per "locking lug" on the case. If there's one, I use one lock. If there's two, I use two locks. You get the idea. My ammunition I have in the manufacturer's packaging, and that goes into the locked case as well. All of this goes into my checked luggage. You must declare the firearm at the ticket counter. The agent will ask you to sign an affidavit that it is unloaded. Some will want to see the case, some don't want you opening your luggage at all. Varies from agent to agent. You will then either be directed to a special TSA agent who handles special and over-sized items, or your bag will be taken away and you'll be asked to remain in place until they tell you that you're cleared to go. In either situation, what the TSA agent will do is open your luggage and make sure the case the firearm is in is indeed locked with TSA approved locks. That's about all there is to it. Once you reach your destination, your luggage will be on the luggage belt with all of the other checked luggage. Atlanta tends to be very easy, but I've had some very interesting experiences coming out of Las Vegas. Montana and other states more used to seeing are also very easy. Just follow the rules.
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Check in at airlines,they’ve will give you paper to sign saying that the gun is unloaded.
put signed paper in gun box,lock box and you keep the key to the gun box.
take the suitcase to tsa.
NOTE: watch that tsa puts the suitcase on the conveyer,
how do I know you ask?

My Son,Grandson and myself were flying out of Norfolk Va. enroute to Alaska, 10 minutes before boarding the plane they called
me back to tsa. We had checked in 11/2 hours before.
tsa claimed that ammo was not packed correctly,

I missed the flight, drove home (NC.) and had to fly out the following afternoon. Slept in anchorage airport and flew to Petersburg the next morning.
yea I was pissed,that’s the reason that I now stand and watch tsa put the bag on the conveyor.
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Great info. Departing airport will either be Charlotte, Greenville, or Columbia, not positive yet, and going to St. Louis. Leaning heavily toward CLT, as it would be the only direct flight option, even though cost is basically the same. 1 hour of drive time will save me a minimum of 2 hours in the air/airports.
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I have had to pay the $25 extra for the handgun as an additional checked bag before. I think it depends on the airline and the attendant you get.
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If they let you put it in a checked bag, the only fee would be if you exceeded the weight limit.
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Originally Posted by RJTaylor View Post
If they let you put it in a checked bag, the only fee would be if you exceeded the weight limit.
thankfully that should not be an issue. Just going to have a bit more stuff than will fit in a carry on.
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thankfully that should not be an issue. Just going to have a bit more stuff than will fit in a carry on.
You should be set then.

I threw my cased shotguns in a big duffel bag with my hunting clothes whenever I flew.
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Hey there, I *think* there maybe a misstatement in a previous post. The handgun must be locked in a hard case that ONLY YOU HAVE THE KEY TO. DO NOT give the key to anyone, even TSA (they shouldnít ask for it but ask you to open). Your luggage that holds the locked firearm case can have the TSA lock.

Hereís what works great for me:
1) small hard case for gun and magazine NO AMMO inside
2) I have case locked and secured via locked cable inside the suitcase.
3) ammo in separate plastic ammo storage case
4) go to counter, check bag, tell agent ďI have a firearm to declareĒ
5) fill out declaration card theyíll give you, open suitcas in front of agent and secure card to firearm hard case
6) Take suitcase to TSA baggage drop, tell agent youíve declared a firearm
7) WAIT UNTIL YOUR BAG IS SCREENED. They may ask you to open, or may just tell you ďall goodĒ

Thats it, easy-peasy have not had an issue flying on American and Frontier yet-they do this all the time.

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I just did this. No extra fee. Plan for a little extra time at the airport. I had to go to the TSA office in airport. They inspected, and then they maintained control of the bag back to the agent who checked it in. I had handgun inside locked hard case inside unlocked luggage. I didn't cable it to the luggage but that's not a bad idea. However, at some unattended baggage carousels, I wonder if that may draw extra attention to the bag?
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I just did this. No extra fee. Plan for a little extra time at the airport. I had to go to the TSA office in airport. They inspected, and then they maintained control of the bag back to the agent who checked it in. I had handgun inside locked hard case inside unlocked luggage. I didn't cable it to the luggage but that's not a bad idea. However, at some unattended baggage carousels, I wonder if that may draw extra attention to the bag?
do they just put the bags with declared guns on the carousel or do you have to show id to claim them.

Cable between case and bag would be completely inside my bag, and not visible without opening the bag.
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If they let you put it in a checked bag, the only fee would be if you exceeded the weight limit.
I'm presuming it has to be LOCKABLE, and designed for guns in particular. Its a technical legality in terms of access to, from anyone handling baggage as well, because of quick convenience. So for a pistol in a lockable container, it could then be placed in a checked in baggage afterwards (after inspection at check-in). This sounds the most reasonable route to me. I've went on a hunting trip to Alaska, and all weapons were declared at baggage check-in. A rifle, pistol and ammo for both all inside my one Pelican rifle case. As mentioned another post, that declaration paper stating not loaded etc... had to be signed and placed inside. Once all was observed done and accepted, I then put my own locks, 3 of them on the Pelican rifle case.
BTW, I once went through the airport at St Louis when I hunted Illinois, their conveyor belt for items such as my Pelican rifle case go through (oversize?), to a different area for pick-up. I kept waiting for close to 30 mins at the "normal" place everyone else waits for baggage....before I finally looked in frustration around and happened to see a discreet spot (a different conveyor belt) where it was----and ANYONE there could have easily grabbed it, and rolled it away unchecked by anyone from a common area. So make sure you ask specifically at your final destination AS SOON AS YOU ARRIVE, where such an item will be coming out to prevent anyone else from casually grabbing it---- It CAN happen! And yes if you go over the allowable amount of checked baggage, you will be charged X amount, for example-- going to Alaska wasn't the problem, LEAVING was, it cost me close to $175 for the SAME AMOUNT of baggage returning, as what I paid going to. So there are variables you wont necessarily know about, till they pop up.
Sorry for the long answer, just trying to be thorough and as accurate as I can.
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do they just put the bags with declared guns on the carousel or do you have to show id to claim them.

Cable between case and bag would be completely inside my bag, and not visible without opening the bag.
Your bag goes with all others, there's no distinction in look or treatment (after TSA clears you at your disembarkment) between your bag with declared unloaded firearm and grandma's bag of extra dentures and granny-panties. The only difference is the tag affixed to the firearm hard case inside of your luggage-which no one sees or knows except you, gate agent and TSA Officer.

i HIGHLY recommend using a cable lock to affix the firearm hard case somehow inside of your suitcase. I just drilled two small holes thru the suitcase's bottom metal plate and ran the cable lock thru it-you'd never know or suspect from seeing the outside of your suitcase, and I don't have to worry about some baggage handler taking the gun case...


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Great info. Departing airport will either be Charlotte, Greenville, or Columbia, not positive yet, and going to St. Louis. Leaning heavily toward CLT, as it would be the only direct flight option, even though cost is basically the same. 1 hour of drive time will save me a minimum of 2 hours in the air/airports.

if you fly American out of Columbia or Greenville youíll most likely be flying on the airline I fly for. Unless you would rather fly out of the smaller ones just go to Charlotte. By the time you fly into Charlotte from Greenville or Columbia itíll take you longer than if you just drive.

I have had had several times where I had to wait 45-90 min in Greenville sitting and waiting after we pushed back from the gate because of the flowntime into Charlotte before taking off. Because Greenville is so close to Charlotte and so many airplanes come into Charlotte we have about a 5 min window to take off to join the arriving flow of traffic. You canít plan for that so just drive.

I haven't checked a pistol yet but yet but it is pretty straight forward. Iíll be doing the same soon I got a new pistol that I wasnít able to bring back from Florida because I was flying jumpseat in the cockpit and didnít have time to check the pistol.
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Iíve only flown with a long gun. And just once, so thatís me. But if you plan to fly between two places often, you may consider just buying another gun, and leaving it with a friend or in a safe location.. the reason being: itís cheaper\faster to get tickets with no luggage, and itís less conspicuous.
Not that we are going all ďgrey manĒ but itís nice just to draw no attention sometimes.
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I read this thread but didn't see this mentioned. DO NOT buy a TSA lock. Any decent lock will work. The TSA locks mean that they have master keys to open the pistol case themselves.

Do NOT use TSA locks on your gun case. This is a misunderstood area of the law and, technically speaking, itís illegal for you to do so. Per the letter of the law, as discussed in the footnotes of this article, you alone must maintain possession of the keys or combination to open your gun case. You cannot lock it in such a way that others have access. By using TSA locks on your gun case, lots of people, just about anyone in fact, technically has access to your guns. TSA locks are NOT secure and not even TSA agents are supposed to have access to your case, once cleared, without you being present to unlock the case.
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Originally Posted by Jim henscheli View Post
Iíve only flown with a long gun. And just once, so thatís me. But if you plan to fly between two places often, you may consider just buying another gun, and leaving it with a friend or in a safe location.. the reason being: itís cheaper\faster to get tickets with no luggage, and itís less conspicuous.
Not that we are going all ďgrey manĒ but itís nice just to draw no attention sometimes.
thankfully not going to be a frequent flier anytime soon. Just have no desire to be 3 miles from Ferguson MO (in an arguably worse part of town) for a week unarmed.
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