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Old 05-11-2018, 09:00 AM
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I’m curious if any fellow healthy eating(organic foods/lifestyles, non gmo/farm raised) deer hunters have found themselves wondering...

Over here in the mid-Atlantic, and even in the Midwest, the majority of whitetail deer hunters are harvesting deer or hunting over GMO crops loaded with herbicides etc, baiting deer with hundreds of pounds of gmo corn. But we hunters claim sometimes when describing why we hunt sometimes as- “non factory farmed, healthy, lean, wild meat”.

I often find myself thinking if organic/all natural meats available for purchase at grocery stores are actually "healthier"' than say your wild whitetail deer whose habitat is say 30% woods 70% crop fields with the majority of their feeding time being spent in the grain fields and not natural browse, which are known non organic or natural practices.

I will likely be pursuing “hunting permission” for next season on local organic practicing farms, as an “organic” healthy foods lifestyle and the consumption gmo fed whitetails doesn’t seem to be in line with the whole healthy foods eating. May as well buy non-organic chicken veggies and fruits if I am going to be consuming non-organic fed venison no?

Need to take up elk hunting the mountains 😁
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Some say we should eat dirt to strengthen our ammunity system not shy away from it.

I know I couldn't afford to eat totally "TRUE" organic foods. Last year I stopped at a Mennonite frame that had "organic" eggs for sale....$12 fkn dollars for a dozen small eggs, $15 for large and if you wanted large and brown eggs they were $18 fkn dollars. hahahahahaa NOT.
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The deer I harvest and consume are 95% naturally fed. The land we manage right here (11,000 acres) is far from the nearest agricultural operation, and even the closest one is two high fences and/or a river away...plus about five miles. A few on the edges will, I'm sure, wonder over and back over time...but they have a few hurdles to get past in order to do so. The closest thing they get to GMO is clover food plots...and they work on those only during a few months of the year at most. We do have two separate properties that do border agricultural fields however...but no supplemental feeding/baiting is allowed, short of the few food plots in clover.

You have valid points however, never really thought about it.
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Last year I paid big bucks for a freezer full of grass fed beef. I then killed 2 deer whose bellies were stuffed with corn.

You make a good point.
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The deer I harvest and consume are 95% naturally fed. The land we manage right here (11,000 acres) is far from the nearest agricultural operation, and even the closest one is two high fences and/or a river away...plus about five miles. A few on the edges will, I'm sure, wonder over and back over time...but they have a few hurdles to get past in order to do so. The closest thing they get to GMO is clover food plots...and they work on those only during a few months of the year at most. We do have two separate properties that do border agricultural fields however...but no supplemental feeding/baiting is allowed, short of the few food plots in clover.

You have valid points however, never really thought about it.
I like that set up a lot! good healthy eating!
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Has any one noticed a taste difference between corn fed venison versus something that's been browsing acorns? Slickcav you bring up a really good question. You can buy grass fed Buffalo also and it's damn good.
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I must be getting a old as I was taught that organic
meant “Relating to or denoting compounds containing carbon (other than simple binary compounds and salts) and chiefly or ultimately of biological origin.”

I just can’t get my head around the current use of that word. 🤔
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I would figure that all the beer that Must be drunk at deer camp outweighes the health benefits of eating venison over beef.

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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
Some say we should eat dirt to strengthen our ammunity system not shy away from it.

I know I couldn't afford to eat totally "TRUE" organic foods. Last year I stopped at a Mennonite frame that had "organic" eggs for sale....$12 fkn dollars for a dozen small eggs, $15 for large and if you wanted large and brown eggs they were $18 fkn dollars. hahahahahaa NOT.
I was driving down some back roads not far from me and went by a Mennonite farm with a "eggs for sale" sign. Turned around and got two dozen for $2.50/dozen USD. Your mennonites must be living large!
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Has any one noticed a taste difference between corn fed venison versus something that's been browsing acorns? Slickcav you bring up a really good question. You can buy grass fed Buffalo also and it's damn good.
Would be interesting to pen a deer and feed it mostly acorns and some grain. Over in Spain, they get $220/pound for their pigs raised that way.

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Most of my deer meat is from North Central PA wild lands. I believe the only foreign substance they may come across is the spray they use via helicopter for Gypsy Moths.
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Do you go fishing for tilapia, too? I go to upstate Michigan to hunt. No big farms, no GMO, no baiting with corn (or anything else), no crap. Just deer in the woods.

And they are damn delicious.
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Deer feeding and baiting is a separate issue from what I have experience with because it isn't legal in many places. Although wild deer often have access to agricultural fields, the harvest season on those crops is VERY limited. I'm perfectly ok eating a deer that might have gotten a few belly-fulls of corn while the corn was ripe. 99% of that deer's diet is wild forage.
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Free ranging deer are natural browsers as opposed to grazers like cattle. Their diet varies widely even in agricultural regions. While they may be consuming some chemically enhanced foods, it's a far cry from eating beef that's been fattened up in a feed lot for months prior to being butchered.
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Originally Posted by Boataholic View Post
Would be interesting to pen a deer and feed it mostly acorns and some grain. Over in Spain, they get $220/pound for their pigs raised that way.

https://www.seriouseats.com/2014/03/...n-iberico.html
Our house is across the street from a 300 acre farm field. When the winter wheat shows up, guess who's out in the field chowing down. When the soybeans start to pod, guess who shows back up. You can't see them when the corn is standing, but once it's harvested, yup it's full of deer. During those 3 different crops, they spray that field 9 different times. There isn't a bug to be found in that field. I can't see how the chemicals are not making it's way into the deer.
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Our house is across the street from a 300 acre farm field. When the winter wheat shows up, guess who's out in the field chowing down. When the soybeans start to pod, guess who shows back up. You can't see them when the corn is standing, but once it's harvested, yup it's full of deer. During those 3 different crops, they spray that field 9 different times. There isn't a bug to be found in that field. I can't see how the chemicals are not making it's way into the deer.
The feral cats and the deer around me taste like lawn spray and herbicides. The cats I throw into the gator pit make the gator meat taste bad.

The pit bulls around here bring low price per pound due to their diet from the kids and small dogs eating bad food.
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Originally Posted by beantownsouth View Post
Our house is across the street from a 300 acre farm field. When the winter wheat shows up, guess who's out in the field chowing down. When the soybeans start to pod, guess who shows back up. You can't see them when the corn is standing, but once it's harvested, yup it's full of deer. During those 3 different crops, they spray that field 9 different times. There isn't a bug to be found in that field. I can't see how the chemicals are not making it's way into the deer.

my point exactly
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It would be interesting to sample pesticide concentrations in deer meat when the animals feed in ag fields a lot.

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It would be interesting to sample pesticide concentrations in deer meat when the animals feed in ag fields a lot.
I got to take one hit by a car coming off the TPC golf course in Cheval. When I tried to skin her out the chemical smell made me dig a hole and bury the thing.
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In the great smokys we took 3 deer.I have to cure my venison with salt.lemon water.or for roasts milk bath,
I also get fresh eggs from the farm.
My corn comes from our farm.
But I think what you guys really want to steer clear of is fast food.Preserved (canned food).and with your regular regimen of taking care of yourself .It should be a wash.
You can only do what you can do.
So if the human lifespan is 120 years.I think hard living in my case probably takes 40 off a man.
Just my humble opinion.ONLY you can take care of YOU!
All the best!
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p.s. My problem is I have 2 fake hips.and getting hard to get to the deer up there.
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