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Old 05-10-2018, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
Once again Pete. If I understand your reasoning. A guy using credit cards somewhere else doesnt prove he did the muggibg. Did your MIL pick the guy out of a photo line up? Sounds like this is not open and shut or he would be in jail BUT I don't know all the particulars and I know you are not a fan of LE or anything govt...dunno buddy...

Trust me, plenty of times I have been upset with the State Attorney for not prosecuting a case and I have my personal experience with a corrupt LEO, so I get it..
I'll PM you. But, that's not the case at all. The evidence is far better than her pointing him out. You can attest to that after PM.
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Old 05-10-2018, 11:23 AM
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A couple years ago my brother's truck was stolen from his yard. He reported the theft and it took 4 days to find the truck. It was parked behind the satellite police station that is in a strip plaza with liquor store. A nieghbor must have needed a ride to get supplies. They litterally only needed to look out the back window.
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Old 05-10-2018, 11:32 AM
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I’ve been a police officer for 24 years. I always call for a criminal ID officer to dust/photo the scene. In all those attempts prints have been recovered a couple times. And of those time, far fewer have ID’d anyone. That’s reality.

CSI isn’t real life. But I process the scene anyways because most people think it is.
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Old 05-10-2018, 11:46 AM
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My brothers house was broken into a few years ago. They pried open the front door, and left the crowbar laying there. Stole 3 guns, a TV, etc.

Couldn't be bothered to even send out an investigator, dust the crowbar, knobs to the closet where the guns were, nothing. To add insult to injury, they did manage to recover the guns from a pawn shop, though they never bothered to inform us of that fact. Evidence pics showed they were in great shape at the time of recovery. A couple of years later after sitting in the evidence room, they were destroyed to the point we didn't even bother to get them back. One of the guns was mine, and I just left it there. Scope was broken, all the metal covered in rust, and the stock was severely scarred. It was only a 10/22, but come on, at least bother to give a damn about crime victims property. Only reason we even found out they were in the evidence room was the former sheriff got ousted, and we contacted the new one to find out if they had been scene or if the investigation was still open. They had never been cataloged, and were found during an evidence room audit.

This is a picture of the gun storage practices in that evidence room prior to the department being turned over. Absolutely no excuse to treat anyone's property in this manner. Of course the sheriff in question knocked up a subordinate and took her in his county issued car to get an abortion out of state. Then was caught sexting with another chick that ran a sex toy shop in the next town over on his county phone. All while married, with several children with his current wife. Oh, and is also an amateur "wrestler". What a piece of pond scum.

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I've had so much shit stolen from me and my businesses it's unreal, if you think for one minute the cops are going to do anything you are living in a dream world. Newsflash, the cops aren't here for us law abiders, they are here to rule over us and generate revenue for the state.
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hooper View Post
I’ve been a police officer for 24 years. I always call for a criminal ID officer to dust/photo the scene. In all those attempts prints have been recovered a couple times. And of those time, far fewer have ID’d anyone. That’s reality.

CSI isn’t real life. But I process the scene anyways because most people think it is.
Some agencies dont allow crime scene to respond but only to certain felonies by policy..so not all can do that..Stay safe up there brother !!
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Old 05-10-2018, 02:56 PM
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Some agencies dont allow crime scene to respond but only to certain felonies by policy..so not all can do that..Stay safe up there brother !!
If I don’t call for a CIO to process I will be called on the carpet. I type my report while waiting for them so it’s not a completely fruitless endeavor.

and you too Cracker, stay safe buddy!
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:23 PM
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Oh here we go...Mr. "I highly doubt it" The reason is there believe it or not... I could careless. The cop on the street knows more than think and has to know rules of evidence and what is useful and legit evidence and what is not..

Your comments bother me about as much as cloudy day, so go hump someone else's leg..

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The original poster claims there were multiple episodes of this. If Cracker is correct, why would the officer even have shown up in the first place? Fait Accompli.....a thing that has already happened or been decided before those affected hear about it, leaving them with no option but to accept.

Public service 101!!! Or in the telling words of one police officer......I could care less!!
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:37 PM
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time for a camera?
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:42 PM
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If I don’t call for a CIO to process I will be called on the carpet. I type my report while waiting for them so it’s not a completely fruitless endeavor.

and you too Cracker, stay safe buddy!
certain felonies? Not a bash of the LEO’s who have to follow that policy, but how is that even a thing? It is in reality a huge injustice to law abiding citizens. Regardless of how minor the crime, complete appropriate investigation should be offered in 100% of cases. I recognize that not all cases dictate an investigation to be possible or practical, but a determination should be made on that basis, not wether performing an investigation is “worth it.”
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Old 05-10-2018, 04:17 PM
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I also can't fathom a police officer too lazy to call an evidence tech to the scene.
Along with all of your other enlightened ASSumptions, you ASSume that the patrolman has the authority to call an evidence tech out.
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Old 05-10-2018, 04:21 PM
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So demanding just wasted not only the officers time but the techs time AND YOUR TIME.
And it covered the interior of your car with a gallon can of print powder. GL with that chit.
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certain felonies? Not a bash of the LEO’s who have to follow that policy, but how is that even a thing? It is in reality a huge injustice to law abiding citizens. Regardless of how minor the crime, complete appropriate investigation should be offered in 100% of cases. I recognize that not all cases dictate an investigation to be possible or practical, but a determination should be made on that basis, not wether performing an investigation is “worth it.”
Because the tax payers won't pay for it.
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Because the tax payers won't pay for it.
pretty sure a polling of them would indicate that they would much rather pay for that than they would a very broad spectrum of “entitlement spending.” Then again, for some dumb ass reason we allow those who receive checks from the government for sitting on their able boddied butts to have an equal say as tax payers.
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Old 05-10-2018, 04:55 PM
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I was a detective in a burglary unit for 4-5 years back in the 80's. Every residential burglary got a crime scene unit dusting for prints. I am sure that there were a few cases made on prints, but I don't recall any off the top of my head. Those CSI shows, while entertaining, are pretty far removed from real life. Most of the arrests made in thefts or burglaries are a result of witness identification, the later fencing of stolen property, or admissions made after the subject is caught doing a similar crime.
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^^^ Also Video surveillance now a days and the pawning of stolen items are A BIG help in gettibg convictions.

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Old 05-10-2018, 06:10 PM
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pretty sure a polling of them would indicate that they would much rather pay for that than they would a very broad spectrum of “entitlement spending.” Then again, for some dumb ass reason we allow those who receive checks from the government for sitting on their able boddied butts to have an equal say as tax payers.

Good points.

Those sitting on their able bodied butts are probably some of the thieves we are bitchin' about though.
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Swab the mailbox and send it in to ancestory DNA.
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Old 05-10-2018, 06:22 PM
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I didn't read all the responses, but I did see some of the experts come out of the wood work. Don't know if cracker touched on it but to get a print you almost have to take your finger run it along the side of your greasy nose and roll it on a flat non porous surface (glass). When on road patrol I would do a lot of dusting, I got one hit off of a stolen vehicle on the INSIDE rearview mirror, perfect thumb print. The leo missed a great opportunity to educate the op. Also a print on the outside, open to the public is useless to any SA. A better option would be CCTV from the mailbox place or surrounding business. Sorry for your loss.
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Old 05-10-2018, 06:30 PM
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Op, you watch too much tv. Departments don’t have the resources to process every crime scene they are called to. Especially since prints will likely be fruitless.
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