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My Buddy Pat & His Quest For The Perfect Boat!

Old 05-05-2018, 06:35 PM
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Pretty downeaster. She's a blank canvas.

So what's the plan? Looking forward to seeing what your buddy Pat is going to do after three decades pondering the perfect boat.

ETA: Post 1,000. Glad it's on a downeast thread!
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Old 05-05-2018, 08:42 PM
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So, this was the original engine in the boat. A John Deere 205 HP with approximately 20 hours on it.

As you can see, the boat had been sitting unused for quite a few years and needs some TLC.
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Overall, the boat was in beautiful shape top & bottom with a few glitches on the gel coat that needed repair.

The process takes time and PLENTY of money....
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Old 05-05-2018, 10:26 PM
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So, the boys had the boat shipped down from Maine to Sag Harbor, LI to have a brand new John Deere motor installed. After consulting with engineers, John Deere and owners of similar hulls, Pat decided he needed to go to a larger motor to achieve the speed he was looking for. They chose another John Deere. This time, a 400 HP.

Before the installation of the new motor Pat crawled under the deck of the boat around the engine box to install Soundown, which as you all know is a composite insulation material used to muffle (somewhat) the engine noise & vibration. I don't have any pics of that because it was a tight space.

Here is a pic of the engine box after the original motor was pulled out. We took this opportunity to clean the area thoroughly and give it a fresh coat of paint.
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It turned out that the motor took much longer than we had anticipated to arrive at the marina for installation.

It all worked out because we had PLENTY of work to do while we waited. I'll upload more pics tomorrow of the SLEW of projects that needed to be addressed...
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:23 AM
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That thing will scoot with the 400hp Deere! Beast of an engine. Looks like plenty of room to swing a bigger wheel, which is an issue on some other DE hulls. The bilge cleaned up great, and I really like the drip pan under the engine.

Are you guys going to add any lifting rails? On a round chine hull like that, the rails will slow down the rocking while drifting, and especially while running. Might increase efficiency & speed a little too. Those little vestigial spray rails on there now aren't going to do much of anything - too small and too far above the waterline.

Food for thought. It's not an expensive project if you've already got her blown apart on the hard. Toughest part would be access to the bilge for the thru bolts, although a lot of guys seem to be using epoxy only and skipping the mechanical fasteners. Pros/cons either way.

Here's a pic of our lifting rails while she was getting bottom paint a few weeks ago. There are art & science components regarding size and placement, so he'd probably want to consult with the builder if he decides to go that route.

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Keep posting - cool boat!
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:41 AM
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Love the blue hull!

Your observations regarding the rails is spot on. One of the "lingering" concerns regarding the boat is the proper placement of the rails and how it effects the boat. I, unfortunately, don't have enough knowledge in this subject to speak intelligently about it. I know Pat has spoken to many different people in an attempt to get this situation resolved. I'll leave it to him to discuss that aspect of the project.
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This is a piece of the Soundown insulation material that Pat installed under the engine box and surrounding vicinity.



A pic of the V-berth area prior to any work being done.



The lower section (under the windows) of the port side of the house showing the entrance to the V-berth area.
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Clean, simple boat. Glad you guys are giving her a fresh lease on life. A little love, some elbow grease, and a lot of beer will go a long way towards getting her done!

The builders up in Maine might be the best resource for the size, shape, and location of the lifting rails. There are a lot of different configurations out there, and I'm sure some work better than others.

Here's a 29 Sisu, looks a little similar to the H&H:




And a 28' Crowley Beal:

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I know for sure Pat and his son Patrick had several conversations with H&H up in Maine regarding the rails and how to install them in the correct locations. Like I said, I'll let Pat & Patrick address that subject.
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So, then the REAL work began. Applying barrier coat. I forget how many coats...ALOT!



Then, the bottom paint. Another 2 coats.
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You can also see in those last 2 pictures (boxed out in blue tape) that there was some boat rash on the starboard side that needed to be repaired. The damage itself is not very clear in these pics.

The guys at the marina did an excellent job doing that repair and you'd never even know it was there now.
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When did the boat leave the marina? Drove by yesterday didnt see it.
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DotRotten - No longer at the marina...

What marina did you drive by yesterday?
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Originally Posted by Tog Nut View Post
DotRotten - No longer at the marina...

What marina did you drive by yesterday?
isn't it at ship ashore in Sag?
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DotRotten- No sir.
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As I said, the original owner of the boat was not a fisherman. So, if you look at this picture you'll see that rod holders were NOT his main concern. All plastic. Some cracked. Hardly enough for a fishing vessel.

No doubt, Pat & Patrick were going to have to remedy this situation.
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It wasn't a difficult decision to make. They went with Lee rod holders.


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