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Old 04-20-2018, 02:18 PM
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Herman Bell is a prime example of why we need the death penalty in this country.
He killed two cops in New York, and while on the lam was involved in killing a third.
Sentenced to life in prison, he was just granted parole.
https://nypost.com/2018/04/20/cop-ki...k-on-schedule/
From the article:
Former Black Liberation Army terrorist and three-time cop-killer Herman Bell is eligible for parole, an Albany judge decided Friday, rejecting a police widow’s request for a do-over parole hearing.
State Supreme Court Justice Richard Koweek set 5 p.m. April 27 for Bell’s release.
Sentenced to 25 years to life for assassinating a pair of patrolmen in a 1971 ambush shooting in Harlem, Bell had been granted parole in March.
Bell was granted parole on his eighth try, and after 44 years in prison for joining with two other BLA thugs in luring NYPD officers Piagentini and Waverly Jones to a housing project with a phony 911 call, and then shooting them on the street from behind.
The BLA was targeting interracial “salt and pepper” patrol pairs; Jones, 33, who was black, died instantly and Piagentini, 28, who was white, writhed on a sidewalk, begging for his life, as he was tortured by 22 shots, including from his own service revolver.
While on the run months later, Bell joined in a BLA cop assassination in San Francisco; he pleaded guilty to manslaughter, maintaining he was just the getaway driver.
Even Gov. Andrew Cuomo has said he is personally opposed to the decision, though he has taken no action to override state parole officials.
“If I were on the parole board, I would not have made that decision,” Cuomo said at an unrelated New York City event Thursday morning. “The parole board is an independent board and I would not have made that decision.”
Old 04-20-2018, 02:26 PM
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Hmmm... who makes up your parole boards there??? Do they need to file any kind of report on their justification for release or denial of parole??

And what about that Judge... Did the Judge give any justification why he (she) denied the request for a do-over? Was the request bogus or ill-prepared? (and why should the police widow have to make that request.. what about the rest of the society up there?)

You missed posting this part of the article:
Some 1,000 names have been entered into a petition supporting Bell’s parole.The names include faculty members from museums and college arts programs at East Coast colleges, including Columbia University, New York University, the City University of New York, and Parsons School of Design.
Is this guy going to become an artist or rap star now??
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I'm a FIRM believer in the death penalty, to be carried out the same day the verdict is passed. This scum of the earth should have NEVER even made it to jail the day he was arrested. That's called justice !!!
Hopefully he will receive his just reward the day he is released.
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Originally Posted by nibble View Post
This scum of the earth should have NEVER even made it to jail the day he was arrested. That's called justice !!!
Agreed!
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People might get mad at this, but i seriously hope there's a vigilante that hate cop killers as much as I do.
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People might get mad at this, but i seriously hope there's a vigilante that hate cop killers as much as I do.
If someone gets mad at you, they are on the side of the low life murderer, so guess what they probably do for a living? It ain't called work !!!
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So, here is the NYS Parole Board. I don't know if THIS was the parole board that allowed the parole for this guy, but I would not be surprised, nor should Gov Cuomo.



I dunno... maybe they didn't even know what they were voting on! From an earlier article:
At a September board meeting, one commissioner, Marc Coppola, complained that he had trouble keeping track of which inmate he was interviewing. “We were a mess,” Mr. Coppola said, according to video of the meeting. “We didn’t even know who was in the chair.”

In a different article from last year, the folks were celebrating the new appointees, saying " many of these five Commissioners more closely reflect the identities and experiences of people in prison, " I guess assuming that they will be more favorable to acting in the parolee's interests.

I think parolees should first be assigned to something like a half-way house located near one of the parole board members domiciles. We (the rest of the country) should also have a say if a parolee should be allowed to cross state lines, or if they need to stay in their home state.

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In the old days ,if you killed an officer death penalty was automatic
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The death penalty should apply to a person no matter who he or she killed.
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I have never, and will never be a proponent of the death penalty. IMO humans don't get to make that decision.

However....

I see nothing wrong with making scum of the earth like this POS work in a labor camp his / her entire life, 6 days per week, 10 hour workdays with only Sunday's off. The work would be very labor intensive and harsh!
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How on earth would anyone vote to release a cold blooded murdered, especially of law enforcement??? Astonishing.
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
I have never, and will never be a proponent of the death penalty. IMO humans don't get to make that decision.

However....

I see nothing wrong with making scum of the earth like this POS work in a labor camp his / her entire life, 6 days per week, 10 hour workdays with only Sunday's off. The work would be very labor intensive and harsh!
You are incorrect, humans DO get to make that decision, the BIBLE and God above give us that right!!! But I'm sure you also don't believe in God, so there's that.
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nibble....

While I respectfully disagree with you on the death penalty. Please provide proof of the following:

1. God & the Good book says it ok for us to kill one another?

2. Because of my belief, I can't know God?


Again....respectfully, you don't know jack shit about me, which is apparent to all here with regards to your last statement. Maybe you should do some homework before ridiculing others!
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
I have never, and will never be a proponent of the death penalty. IMO humans don't get to make that decision.

However....
I see nothing wrong with making scum of the earth like this POS work in a labor camp his / her entire life, 6 days per week, 10 hour workdays with only Sunday's off. The work would be very labor intensive and harsh!
It's just a matter of timing.

Some person points a gun at me, and they just volunteered to be sentenced.

I don't know the detail of this case but, if it is as presented, then the death penalty is to prevent the next innocent civilian or LEO death. The suspect just hasn't raised the gun yet, but we all know he will.

There are many cases where it would NOT apply and should NOT be used, but this doesn't sound like one. How he didn't get life for the events described is beyond be, maybe there is more to the story.
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
I think parolees should first be assigned to something like a half-way house located near one of the parole board members domiciles. We (the rest of the country) should also have a say if a parolee should be allowed to cross state lines, or if they need to stay in their home state.
I could be wrong for american prisoners, but here, if a person is paroled early they are subject to half way houses and or a parole officer. But if the person does their full term or longer than their released has no strings attached to that person. That person is free to travel about just as you and I are and have to answer to no one.
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Originally Posted by gman5436 View Post

The family of slain NYPD Police Officer Anthony Dwyer is asking that our membership help them in their efforts to keep their loved one's killer behind bars.
Now I think that is pretty shitty on your part to say the Dwyer family is directly asking THT members to get involved in the petition as you have made claim.
If you personally have an agenda to fulfill then do so, but do so without twisting the words of others to help your cause.

But hell, what do I know, you make it sound like you personally knew the guy almost 50 years ago? Do you personally know the family and Anthony?
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
I could be wrong for american prisoners, but here, if a person is paroled early they are subject to half way houses and or a parole officer. But if the person does their full term or longer than their released has no strings attached to that person. That person is free to travel about just as you and I are and have to answer to no one.
Doesn't (or shouldn't) apply to this guy. He was sentenced to 25 to LIFE, and probably should stay till the life term is up. I would be interested in how the court came up with the "25" part of the sentence. If he is paroled, I'm not sure how long he stays under the status of "parolee"
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
Doesn't (or shouldn't) apply to this guy. He was sentenced to 25 to LIFE, and probably should stay till the life term is up. I would be interested in how the court came up with the "25" part of the sentence. If he is paroled, I'm not sure how long he stays under the status of "parolee"
I could be wrong, didn't the murder happen in 1971? So it's not 25 years involved, it's 47 years incarceration involved.
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
nibble....

While I respectfully disagree with you on the death penalty. Please provide proof of the following:

1. God & the Good book says it ok for us to kill one another?

2. Because of my belief, I can't know God?


Again....respectfully, you don't know jack shit about me, which is apparent to all here with regards to your last statement. Maybe you should do some homework before ridiculing others!
Not going to get into a biblical/religious debate with you, but I will suggest you read it on your own. It's plain and simple , eye for eye, tooth for tooth. Common sense tells me ,,,,death for death.

Respectfully written.
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Put this case and religion aside for a minute. Why is the murder rate in non-death penalty states consistently lower over the past many years, than in death penalty states?

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