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Old 04-19-2018, 08:01 AM
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Thumbs up Updated: Good Bye DirecTv Now, Hello Playstation Vue, Another cable TV cord cutter..

Update: We got tired of the continuous glitches, poor performance, and terrible interface with DirecTv Now so last week we did the 5 day free trial of Playstation Vue. It's astonishing how much better Playstation Vue is than DirecTv Now. No glitches, slowness, etc and the user interface/menus/guide is far superior. We have dropped DirecTv Now like a hot potato.

Playstation Vue is $5 more/month than DirecTv Now ($45 vs $40) but worth it because it's 100% reliable (like NetFlix and Amazon Prime video) and very functional.

We recently decided to get rid of our cable TV service (Spectrum) and try a streaming service for live TV. We had 1 Spectrum DVR, 3 standard Spectrum cable boxes, and 4 small Spectrum digital converter boxes. We kept our Spectrum 60mbps internet and we already have Netflix and Amazon Prime. We chose DirecTv Now streaming service which will be $35/month after the initial $10/month for the first 3 months. We chose DirecTv Now because they have a much better mix of channels for my wife and I compared to Youtube TV, Playstation Vue, Hulu, or Sling:

http://clark.com/technology/tvsatell...hannel-lineup/

DirecTv Now does have some significant flaws:
  • Their channel guide is far and away the worst streaming TV interface in the history of mankind. Awful. Awful. Awful.
  • They have no DVR support and when they release their DVR support (later this spring?) fast forwarding through commercials will be disabled.
  • They do not have a 'live' Orlando CBS channel
In order to get the local CBS station and DVR support (with fast forward enabled) we bought a Tablo TV Dual tuner DVR (
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) and an OTA antenna. We first tried the basic $20 'NoCable' 30 mile antenna (
Amazon Amazon
) and it got most of the Orlando stations but not reliably. So I bought the Channel Master CM-4228HD 80 mile antenna (
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) which I mounted in the attic and it gets every Orlando station 100% reliably.

The Tablo TV 'enhanced' guide costs $5/month but it's pretty much required for full DVR support. The Tablo TV interface/channel guide is also 1000% better than the DirecTv Now channel guide.

I had a spare 1 TB USB hard drive I hooked up to the Tablo TV DVR and it works great.

Our monthly internet/cable TV bill went from about $270/month to about $100/month ($60 for internet, $35 for DirecTv Now, $5 for Tablo TV guide).

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Old 04-19-2018, 08:09 AM
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I want to do the attic antenna as my indoor comes and goes at the worst times.

did you splice in to a main existing box for all outlet feeds or just direct to your tv?
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I like your antenna set up. Need to mounting one in the attic. When we cut our cable i tried some of the indoor antennas but was only able to get 1 local network. From limited research I think it has something to do with vhf vs uhf. I also wasn’t crazy about having visible antennas - all this money on flatscreens and pulling power through to wall to have an antenna sitting on the mantle....

We went YouTube tv to get the local networks but when I have some time to play with an antenna set up hopefully we can switch to direct or Hulu for some better channels.
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I want to do the attic antenna as my indoor comes and goes at the worst times.

did you splice in to a main existing box for all outlet feeds or just direct to your tv?
I direct feed the OTA to the Tablo DVR box. The Tablo can stream content either wired or wifi to any TV/display/tablet/PC/etc running the Tablo app. We already had several Rokus and a couple FireSticks which we have been using with the TVs.
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So what you're saying is you plug the antenna directly into the Tablo which is more or less your head station, then it streams everything from the antenna to your TV's via Roku? So you can put a TV even where there is no coax and still get the feed from the antenna?
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So what you're saying is you plug the antenna directly into the Tablo which is more or less your head station, then it streams everything from the antenna to your TV's via Roku? So you can put a TV even where there is no coax and still get the feed from the antenna?
YES! It will even stream to mobile devices (phones, etc) remotely so you can watch your local OTA/DVR anywhere your mobile device can stream data.
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how much did you have to mess with aiming your antenna, or did you just pick a spot and mount it?
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Boy, am I glad I've seen this thread when I did!

Do you have channels in all directions which the antenna can pick up, or is it truly a 180 degree antenna? I have stations in all directions, so I'm thinking I'd have a hard time dialing it in, but I do like that antenna and the means which you installed it.
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how much did you have to mess with aiming your antenna, or did you just pick a spot and mount it?
The broadcast towers we are mostly interested in are at true azimuth 19, 80, 126 and I aimed the antenna about 75 degrees as a first guess and it worked.

I use TVFool.com to get the broadcast tower locations: http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opti...pper&Itemid=29
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FYI, Spectrum now offers (but doesn't really advertise) a streaming service where you pick 10 channels for about $23/mo. You get all of the local channels plus your choice of 10 premium channels in streaming format. It's been great so far. I didn't like having to switch my source, etc. to be able to use my antenna, but this puts it all in one place with a pretty good interface.
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FYI, Spectrum now offers (but doesn't really advertise) a streaming service where you pick 10 channels for about $23/mo. You get all of the local channels plus your choice of 10 premium channels in streaming format. It's been great so far. I didn't like having to switch my source, etc. to be able to use my antenna, but this puts it all in one place with a pretty good interface.
Yeah, I think I am going to try this with Spectrum. They are offering it for $21.99 per month for two years. Gonna try it free for 7 days first though and see if I like it better than YouTube TV which is now $40 per month.
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We recently decided to get rid of our cable TV service (Spectrum) and try a streaming service for live TV. We had 1 Spectrum DVR, 3 standard Spectrum cable boxes, and 4 small Spectrum digital converter boxes. We kept our Spectrum 60mbps internet and we already have Netflix and Amazon Prime. We chose DirecTv Now streaming service which will be $35/month after the initial $10/month for the first 3 months. We chose DirecTv Now because they have a much better mix of channels for my wife and I compared to Youtube TV, Playstation Vue, Hulu, or Sling:

http://clark.com/technology/tvsatell...hannel-lineup/

DirecTv Now does have some significant flaws:
  • Their channel guide is far and away the worst streaming TV interface in the history of mankind. Awful. Awful. Awful.
  • They have no DVR support and when they release their DVR support (later this spring?) fast forwarding through commercials will be disabled.
  • They do not have a 'live' Orlando CBS channel
In order to get the local CBS station and DVR support (with fast forward enabled) we bought a Tablo TV Dual tuner DVR (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0731QW3MR) and an OTA antenna. We first tried the basic $20 'NoCable' 30 mile antenna (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075B3KQQD) and it got most of the Orlando stations but not reliably. So I bought the Channel Master CM-4228HD 80 mile antenna (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FVVKQM) which I mounted in the attic and it gets every Orlando station 100% reliably.

The Tablo TV 'enhanced' guide costs $5/month but it's pretty much required for full DVR support. The Tablo TV interface/channel guide is also 1000% better than the DirecTv Now channel guide.

I had a spare 1 TB USB hard drive I hooked up to the Tablo TV DVR and it works great.

Our monthly internet/cable TV bill went from about $270/month to about $100/month ($60 for internet, $35 for DirecTv Now, $5 for Tablo TV guide).
I did the same thing with just the internet from Spectrum, Amazon/Netflix and then added the DirecTV Now just for some variety. I do like to occasionally just flip through channels and see what sticks.

The lack of DVR didn't bother me as much as I thought. All the shows I would usually DVR are available on the respective channel's app, and you can watch them at any time after the episode airs.

I read mixed reviews about the DTV Now but I am actually pleasantly surprised by it. Might buffer once a night, and is pretty reliable.
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DirecTv Now does have some significant flaws:
  • Their channel guide is far and away the worst streaming TV interface in the history of mankind. Awful. Awful. Awful.
  • They have no DVR support and when they release their DVR support (later this spring?) fast forwarding through commercials will be disabled.
  • They do not have a 'live' Orlando CBS channel
We tried Hulu plus live TV first - at least with DirectTv Now there's actually a guide. Hulu has none. We did the DirectTV deal that comes with an Apple TV 4K if you pre-pay, found that the streaming quality is much better on that vs a Roku Stick. There's still some occasional glitchy stuff like losing sound on a channel for a bit.

I miss some of the on-demand stuff from Hulu, they have a pretty impressive library of material - both old shows and originals that I don't have with DTV.

I considered YouTube TV but they don't carry HGTV yet so that was a no-go from the wife.

Even with some of the technical drawbacks I like saving the money over cable.
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Is Roku worth it?
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FYI, Spectrum now offers (but doesn't really advertise) a streaming service where you pick 10 channels for about $23/mo. You get all of the local channels plus your choice of 10 premium channels in streaming format. It's been great so far. I didn't like having to switch my source, etc. to be able to use my antenna, but this puts it all in one place with a pretty good interface.
whats this offering called?
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Is Roku worth it?
Yes because it works so well.

We are about to dump PS Vue. They are doing the same crap cable companies do. In 18 months our bill has gone from $29 to $42.
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whats this offering called?

Spectrum TVStream
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Timely thread for me as well.

Is there some significant difference between mounting outdoors and mounting in an attic? None of my TVs are smart (kinda like my kids) so do I need to hard wire them to a central source that streams the data, and/or do I need to add a Roku-like device to each TV?
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We recently decided to get rid of our cable TV service (Spectrum) and try a streaming service for live TV. We had 1 Spectrum DVR, 3 standard Spectrum cable boxes, and 4 small Spectrum digital converter boxes. We kept our Spectrum 60mbps internet and we already have Netflix and Amazon Prime. We chose DirecTv Now streaming service which will be $35/month after the initial $10/month for the first 3 months. We chose DirecTv Now because they have a much better mix of channels for my wife and I compared to Youtube TV, Playstation Vue, Hulu, or Sling:

http://clark.com/technology/tvsatell...hannel-lineup/

DirecTv Now does have some significant flaws:
  • Their channel guide is far and away the worst streaming TV interface in the history of mankind. Awful. Awful. Awful.
  • They have no DVR support and when they release their DVR support (later this spring?) fast forwarding through commercials will be disabled.
  • They do not have a 'live' Orlando CBS channel
In order to get the local CBS station and DVR support (with fast forward enabled) we bought a Tablo TV Dual tuner DVR (

I Switched to YouTubeTV... UNLIMITED DVR. Channel Guide is great, the whole interface is really good.
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I Switched to YouTubeTV... UNLIMITED DVR. Channel Guide is great, the whole interface is really good.
The problem we have with Youtube TV is no Discovery, HGTV, Food Network, or History Channels.
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