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Old 03-13-2018, 03:22 PM
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Cancun has a major murder problem

While Cancun is known for its spectacular white sand beaches and turquoise waters, the tourist hotspot is in the grips of a brutal and growing crime wave that threatens to leave it a ghost town.
Located in the Mexican state of Quintana Roo, things are so bad in Cancun that the murder rate has doubled in the past year — with 169 killings in the first half of 2017.
Amid a thriving drug trade and widespread extortion, fear is rampant and most of the murders go unsolved. Now, the situation is so dire that its multibillion-dollar tourism industry is under threat.
British journalist Krishnan Guru-Murthy traveled to Mexico for the Special Broadcasting Service, a public broadcaster in Australia, to investigate why the murders are taking place. Guru-Murthy was stunned by what he found.
“This is one of the most beautiful views in the world and we are the only people here,” Guru-Murthy said from Cancun’s main beach.
Later on, just before sunset, he found himself in the middle of a crime scene — a man had been gunned down in the sand. Four men had come in through a luxury hotel and attacked the man, who later died in the hospital.
And this was meant to be one of the safer places in the area.
Guru-Murthy was also shocked by the lack of police presence, with many tourists unaware of the gruesome sight just feet away.
“It’s as if the police don’t want anyone to notice. There’s minimum fuss and hardly any officers here,” he said.
While it’s the third shooting on the beach in Cancun this year, tourists will struggle to find any information about the shootings online.
So why are these crimes kept so hush-hush?
“We’ve been told that local politicians here have put the press under pressure not to report violence in this area, because if the tourists are scared away from here, it will be an economic disaster not only for Cancun, but for Mexico.”
Even when a well-known police commander, his wife and baby nephew were shot dead, in a separate incident during Dateline’s visit, nobody was arrested.
‘The problem is spreading
There are fears that Cancun is on the brink of ruin and could face a demise similar to that of Acapulco, which was once one of the world’s most glamorous locations but is now Mexico’s murder capital.
Guru-Murthy also visited Acapulco, and just five minutes after landing, was notified of a nearby crime scene with four bodies — including children.
Another night during his stay, he heard gunshots: A taxi driver had been murdered in the street outside.
Investigators in Acapulco are totally overwhelmed, often visiting 10 murder scenes a day.
Troops patrol the city’s streets and beaches, extortion and murder are rife and many businesses have been forced to close. There are no foreign tourists in sight, it’s simply too dangerous here.
A local businesswoman named Lara, who closed her business, explained: “They arrived one day and asked for between 15,000 and 20,000 pesos ($800 and $1,000) a month. Probably around 30 or 40 percent of our turnover.”
“It’s not nice to walk in the street and find someone’s head. It’s very sad to know that your friends have been executed. Medics, taxi drivers, doctors, business people … no social class is exempt.”
Extortion isn’t just happening in the city. In nearby coastal villages — where the police rarely go — there is even less protection and locals are making a stand.
Rene Ozuna, a lifelong fisherman in Barra Vieja, Acapulco, has inspired local people to rise up against the extortion gangs by forming themselves into groups of vigilantes called the Community Police.
“We have killed about six or seven people,” he said. “But only criminals, extortionists. Criminals who have cut people into pieces. In civilian life, I’m a good person.”

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INTERNATIONAL
Mexico Is World's Second Most Violent Country, Report Says


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My wife and I are heading to Riviera Maya the 26th for a week. Hope all is well in that area!
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So what’s your point? You post an article that quotes first half of 2017 numbers. Bet ya don’t know what the murders totals for Chicago? New Orleans? Detroit? Dare I asked about new jersey? And the article then switches to a location 1000 miles away from Cancun. Come on man think before you post.

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I talked Son out of going to Mexico on spring break
His friends that went all came back shaken and vow to never go back

He said locals were drugging people left and right. Several went to hospital

Hard drugs sold at every gas station.

It’s out of control!!


Please don’t let your kids go to the spring break areas
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And there's people that DON'T want a wall built????
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Originally Posted by rocksandblues View Post
I talked Son out of going to Mexico on spring break
His friends that went all came back shaken and vow to never go back

He said locals were drugging people left and right. Several went to hospital

Hard drugs sold at every gas station.

It’s out of control!!


Please don’t let your kids go to the spring break areas
some times people think they were drugged but they really just drank too much. they serve a stiff drink down there.
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These were boys well versed in handling liquor from a popular frat from a well respected university known, for better or worse, as a party school.

No hyperbole these are 21 year old worldly guys that say no way they are going back


I must also say I love Cozumel and points way south on the carribean side
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Originally Posted by rocksandblues View Post
I talked Son out of going to Mexico on spring break
His friends that went all came back shaken and vow to never go back

He said locals were drugging people left and right. Several went to hospital

Hard drugs sold at every gas station.

It’s out of control!!


Please don’t let your kids go to the spring break areas

My kid is only 10 and I'm already warning him to stay away from spring break in mexico , lol.

I had a friend that was in mexico and got a shake down by the cops and had to pay his way to freedom.
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Originally Posted by alfnator View Post

I had a friend that was in mexico and got a shake down by the cops and had to pay his way to freedom.
that happens in a LOT of foreign places...
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one thing people might want to notice about the story

British journalist Krishnan Guru-Murthy

it was written by a British journalist with an Indian heritage

it is my opinion that most Europeans are a little more used to risky travel with places in Africa, the middle east and India either being very close and inexpensive or having ties to their native country through colonial rule so they tend to not panic as much about things like USA travelers do or exaggerate them as much

so when you start seeing them doing reports on places being dangerous it is my opinion that things are getting petty bad

everyone said "it will never happen to Acapulco the government will not allow it and the cartels are not going to kill that it would bring too much heat" or "they have no concern with that ignore them and they ignore you"

well they sure killed that place and it did not take a long time

it was my experience in the places I used to go that as the tourist dropped off more and more well that was "made up for" with the scamming and the other issues getting worse and worse for those that did still go to the point everyone stopped going

the other interesting thing to note is what the locals are doing in the small areas out side of Acapulco and what they are resorting to....ARMING themselves with those evil GUNS and finally flat killing those that have been ignoring the strict gun laws in Mexico for decades and killing with impunity

sometimes there is only one answer for dealing with evil and that is eliminating it once and for all
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Originally Posted by signmansez View Post
And there's people that DON'T want a wall built????
Johnboy114?
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Originally Posted by johnboy114 View Post
So what’s your point? You post an article that quotes first half of 2017 numbers. Bet ya don’t know what the murders totals for Chicago? New Orleans? Detroit? Dare I asked about new jersey? And the article then switches to a location 1000 miles away from Cancun. Come on man think before you post.
Sorry if I offended your heritage......

I don’t know many people that spend their money and choose to vacation in Chicago or Detroit? Do they have a big spring break crowd of 16-23 year olds at those places that I’m not aware of? I am born and raised in jersey and say about it what you will but in almost 50 years I have yet to find a human head on the beach! In fact I live at the beach and I have never been approached to buy drugs here. I was in Mexico 4 months ago and felt like a ping pong ball walking down the street as drug dealers on both sides of the sidewalk yelled “pot” “coke” “blow” “girls” “extacy” it was unreal. We had hookers approach us as we were walking hand in hand with our wives asking us if we wanted blow jobs! Can’t remember the last time that happened in Ortley Beach! Defend Mexico all you want. I’m going back again in 8 months on another fishing trip but I have seen it plummet the past few years. Guys only this time. This will probably be the last until I hear differently.
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Originally Posted by alfnator View Post
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I had a friend that was in mexico and got a shake down by the cops and had to pay his way to freedom.
This has happened to me twice in the Dominican Republic. Twice in the same day. These places are not like living in Mayberry.
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Originally Posted by mhinkle90 View Post
My wife and I are heading to Riviera Maya the 26th for a week. Hope all is well in that area!
Stay on your resort and only take qualified rides from your resort to any of your excursion destinations.
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South Side Chicago for spring break! Thank god its a gun free zone...
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I have traveled quite a bit in mex. Dangerous? Absolutely. Learn Spanish, avoid shit areas and lay low—don’t make a scene. You’ll be good ��
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I've been to Riviera Maya area many times. I'd probably hold off right now. Reading in the tripadvisor forums about Cancun and there's definitely things occurring that haven't happened in the past (besides the murders). Some notable occurrences have been 'cabbies' pulling up offering a ride to ANYWHERE for $5... nope. Also, assaults and stealing on the bus.

I should say though, you just have to be smart in these situations. Years ago I went to Jamaica and these are laid back people. I made the dumb mistake of going on a solo walk/ adventure and got into a little local's market area. A few of the locals basically made me buy something (overpriced of course) - which just happened to be a carved ashtray (I don't smoke). The key here though is, I didn't bring my wallet and only brought like $12 USD and I showed them my pockets. So, not a bad lesson for $12 carved ashtray for a nonsmoker.

Just need to be wise.
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Originally Posted by offshorebri View Post
Sorry if I offended your heritage......

...it was unreal. We had hookers approach us as we were walking hand in hand with our wives asking us if we wanted blow jobs!
Well...?
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Originally Posted by houtxfisher View Post
Well...?


LMFAO!


Some were actually very cute. Most looked very young. I would venture to guess 16-18 years old.


The wives all joked as to what would have happened if they weren't there.

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