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Old 02-22-2018, 08:07 PM
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Does President Trump, the commander in chief, have the power to order x amount of active duty military personnel to perform a duty such as protecting public schools?

If so, how long would it take?
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
Does President Trump, the commander in chief, have the power to order x amount of active duty military personnel to perform a duty such as protecting public schools?

If so, how long would it take?
The National Guard would be more appropriate.
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Wouldn’t that be prohibited by the posse comitatus act?

National guard maybe?
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How can this proposal be prevented from being enacted, especially knowing this will cost us little to nothing more than we are already spending.?

Please let me know the extra costs we would have other than initial transportation costs?

The GI's could house at local National Guard sites for free.

Nice thinking rbh.
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No help in the question but I really like your thinking
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Considering that there is a sailor/soldier/marine or 10 or a 1000 from virtually every burg in the country let the guys take the gig TAD so they get to spend 6 months or a year "back home." They probably wouldn't even squawk about no per diem.
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The answer is yes but should he?
Resounding NO. You want to talk slippery slope?
This country first has to get its progressive heads out of its progrssive ass. That’s what needs to happen. This country needs a serious douching on its social plain and until that happens, duck.
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I spent quite a bit if time in Israel back in the day - Uzi packing soldiers EVERYWHERE, just walking around and having a presence. They soon blended in to the landscape. No civilian shootings ever occurred that I am that I am aware of.
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Originally Posted by STEELA View Post
The answer is yes but should he?
Resounding NO. You want to talk slippery slope?
This country first has to get its progressive heads out of its progrssive ass. That’s what needs to happen. This country needs a serious douching on its social plain and until that happens, duck.
Not to mention the Obvious fraternization issues.....
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Originally Posted by tommyjones View Post
Not to mention the Obvious fraternization issues.....
I was trying to think of a nice way of mmentioning sailors in close proximity to 16 -18 YO girls but it escaped me.

Maybe the right screening/vetting process could eliminate the concern?
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Originally Posted by Stray Current View Post
Wouldn’t that be prohibited by the posse comitatus act?

National guard maybe?
No, I don't believe it would violate Posse Comitatus, as there has been precedent, although in a slightly different role:

1957 - Little Rock High School
1962 - Univ. of Mississippi
1963 - Univ of Alabama and other Alabama schools
1965 - Selma, AL
1967 - Detroit riots
1968 - Chicago, Washington, Baltimore riots, MLK assassination
1970 - NYC postal strike
1989 - Hurricane Hugo, USVI
1992 - Rodney King

I believe the governor could mobilize the National Guard to protect schools; I think the costs would prohibit it.
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The National Guard would be a better fit IMO. A system could be set up where their two weeks of required service per year would be in schools. I have no idea if there are enough to go around, but it makes sense and shouldn't cost anything extra since they're already getting paid by the government for their service.
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
Does President Trump, the commander in chief, have the power to order x amount of active duty military personnel to perform a duty such as protecting public schools?

If so, how long would it take?
I don't know how on earth you thought that one threw??? Put American soldiers on duty to defend America against Americans. ...and yet you'll stomp up and down on "don't touch my guns".
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The National Guard would be a better fit IMO. A system could be set up where their two weeks of required service per year would be in schools.
No, no, no...GOD NO. Having trained National Guard, they need to spend their two weeks of Annual Training working on their core competencies. Remeber, in a major land war, there are not enough active duty to fulfill all the logistical requirement needed for modern warfare (to an extent combat roles as well). Active duty depends on the Nat. Guard/Reserves to supplement our manpower for a major war. Not to mention, from someone IN the military, you don't want Active Duty policing schools. Total waste of manpower and something we're not trained for in the slightest. I'm sure you don't want 19yr old Private Snuffy patrolling your kids school armed with an M4 (if you haven't served, the correct answer is no...you don't). Sending NCO's (E5-E6) is a waste of manpower, hinders their professional development and the training of their subordinates. Sending NCO's from non-combat branches would be...how do I say...not terribly effective. Stick with police officers, it's what their trained for and better fits their intended role.
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
Does President Trump, the commander in chief, have the power to order x amount of active duty military personnel to perform a duty such as protecting public schools?

If so, how long would it take?
A mission they are absolutely not trained for????? I don't think so.
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Not if the bone spurs are acting up.
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While it seems like a good option (and the hometown duty is a cool idea)...

You do not want some grunt or joe guarding a school. Sure, if it works as a preventative that is fine. But, if there is an active shooter and a regular infantryman responds there will likely be some other casualties. Police are trained much differently than military when it comes to a gunfight.

Our infantry is awesome, but do you really want “violence of action” or “lead with lead” rolling through some private’s head as he engages a teenage shooter in the hallway of a crowded high school?

Maybe give him a few grenades as well and a claymore with some det cord to block an escape avenues
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Has bad idea written all over it......
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Would the signs then say this is a gun free war zone?
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Originally Posted by rit.05 View Post
While it seems like a good option (and the hometown duty is a cool idea)...

You do not want some grunt or joe guarding a school. Sure, if it works as a preventative that is fine. But, if there is an active shooter and a regular infantryman responds there will likely be some other casualties. Police are trained much differently than military when it comes to a gunfight.

Our infantry is awesome, but do you really want “violence of action” or “lead with lead” rolling through some private’s head as he engages a teenage shooter in the hallway of a crowded high school?

Maybe give him a few grenades as well and a claymore with some det cord to block an escape avenues
Much easier to train them, Then arming the fifth grade teacher...for example

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