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Old 02-13-2018, 05:28 PM
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Default Barnes & Noble... or Sears?

For the longest time I've been saying, "THIS is the last year for Sears..." yet... they keep holding on and finding more suckers to lend them money.

Now I'm wondering, you think Barnes & Noble might crap the bed first? It's a long shot, and I think Sears will likely dirt-nap first... but I don't know. Things look pretty grim for Barnes & Noble.
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Sears value is the Craftsman and Kenmore names. May in their leases. Barnes and Noble?
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I thought B&N already had. Most stores are toast. I read an embarrassingly large amount of mostly useless fiction. I have a library well over 1,000 books of which I have read about 90%. I go only Amazon. I also refuse to read on a kindle or digital reader. Mainly of superstition. I like a book in my hands, not a tablet, but also, if "it" happens, I still have all my books lol. Kinda like that scene in Twilight Zone.

There are enough hard paper only readers like myself out there, but they can't keep up with Amazon on pricing, selection, and shipping.
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
I thought B&N already had. Most stores are toast. I read an embarrassingly large amount of mostly useless fiction. I have a library well over 1,000 books of which I have read about 90%. I go only Amazon. I also refuse to read on a kindle or digital reader. Mainly of superstition. I like a book in my hands, not a tablet, but also, if "it" happens, I still have all my books lol. Kinda like that scene in Twilight Zone.

There are enough hard paper only readers like myself out there, but they can't keep up with Amazon on pricing, selection, and shipping.
I guarantee i read as much, and yet I only read on a kindle. You're nuts, you need to try it.

Barnes and noble is toast regardless.

I've never understood the allure of Sears, maybe been in one twice in my life, but the baby boomers all seem to think it's a lovely place.
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
I thought B&N already had. Most stores are toast. I read an embarrassingly large amount of mostly useless fiction. I have a library well over 1,000 books of which I have read about 90%. I go only Amazon. I also refuse to read on a kindle or digital reader. Mainly of superstition. I like a book in my hands, not a tablet, but also, if "it" happens, I still have all my books lol. Kinda like that scene in Twilight Zone.

There are enough hard paper only readers like myself out there, but they can't keep up with Amazon on pricing, selection, and shipping.
This.

I cannot and will not use a Kindle. I have to have a hard copy, and Amazon is the only place.

For a $15 Amazon book, Barnes and Noble will be $21 and the mom n pop bookstore will be $40.

You can't justify supporting them...I tried this Christmas. A book I bought my mom from our local bookstore was $45. Looked on Amazon when I got home and it was $25. Sorry, but never again.
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
I thought B&N already had. Most stores are toast. I read an embarrassingly large amount of mostly useless fiction. I have a library well over 1,000 books of which I have read about 90%. I go only Amazon. I also refuse to read on a kindle or digital reader. Mainly of superstition. I like a book in my hands, not a tablet, but also, if "it" happens, I still have all my books lol. Kinda like that scene in Twilight Zone.

There are enough hard paper only readers like myself out there, but they can't keep up with Amazon on pricing, selection, and shipping.
...as long as your glasses don't break.
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Do you non kindle guys read in bed? How abuot on the beach? I do 95% of my reading in those two spots.

I read almost every night before bed. I used book lights for years, they all suck. Kindle has back lighting built in, anti glare for beach. Get Weeks of life out of the battery. I just don't see a downside. Aside from the nostalgia factor I guess.

And I'm a late adapter tech moron.
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I was a nonkindle guy before I became a Kindle guy.
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Originally Posted by trivialpursuits View Post
...as long as your glasses don't break.
I'm nearsighted. Unlike that guy, I am set lol.

Originally Posted by Double tyme View Post
Do you non kindle guys read in bed? How abuot on the beach? I do 95% of my reading in those two spots.

I read almost every night before bed. I used book lights for years, they all suck. Kindle has back lighting built in, anti glare for beach. Get Weeks of life out of the battery. I just don't see a downside. Aside from the nostalgia factor I guess.

And I'm a late adapter tech moron.
In bed, every night for an hour or two. On the beach, any time I can actually get quiet time on the beach, without entertaining the little one.

I dunno. I try to hold off on the 800 page 3 inch thick books for when I know I won't be traveling. Ever since I got to pick books to read, not ones school threw at me, I found it relaxing and therapeutic. I also love the aesthetics of having a library.

I guess if I am doing it on a screen, it doesn't feel the same. This is just for me, but it is like listening to a book on tape isn't the same as reading one. I know you are still reading, but, it is a different medium almost.
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
I'm nearsighted. Unlike that guy, I am set lol.



In bed, every night for an hour or two. On the beach, any time I can actually get quiet time on the beach, without entertaining the little one.

I dunno. I try to hold off on the 800 page 3 inch thick books for when I know I won't be traveling. Ever since I got to pick books to read, not ones school threw at me, I found it relaxing and therapeutic. I also love the aesthetics of having a library.

I guess if I am doing it on a screen, it doesn't feel the same. This is just for me, but it is like listening to a book on tape isn't the same as reading one. I know you are still reading, but, it is a different medium almost.

Exactly the same for me. I like the feel of holding an actual book, and the novelty of having a nice library of books to walk by and randomly pick one up.

I don't have anything against a Kindle...just not for me.
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
I'm nearsighted. Unlike that guy, I am set lol.



In bed, every night for an hour or two. On the beach, any time I can actually get quiet time on the beach, without entertaining the little one.

I dunno. I try to hold off on the 800 page 3 inch thick books for when I know I won't be traveling. Ever since I got to pick books to read, not ones school threw at me, I found it relaxing and therapeutic. I also love the aesthetics of having a library.

I guess if I am doing it on a screen, it doesn't feel the same. This is just for me, but it is like listening to a book on tape isn't the same as reading one. I know you are still reading, but, it is a different medium almost.
I read a fair amount of 800 page 3" books.

But they're the same size for me as the 200 page trash novel!

I found an old dog eared copy of "tai pan" at the beach house a couple months ago. I started reading it that afternoon. That night before bed I put it back on the shelf, opened my kindle, and bought it.

The aesthetics of a library is a point I have no argument for.

Edit To add: I've got a significant amount of well stocked book shelves in my house too, but unless it's a gifted book, I rarely read physical books these days.
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Sears Maytag brand may be gone as the company that was making them dropped the contract, and didn't sears sell off Craftsman?
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Yes, I think Stanley B&D bought them out.
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What about Radio Shack? They've been going out of business for 5 years now. Their stores are almost always empty. Must be a front for some illicit transistor trade or resister trafficking. I don't know.
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Originally Posted by NCSUboater View Post
This.

I cannot and will not use a Kindle. I have to have a hard copy, and Amazon is the only place.

For a $15 Amazon book, Barnes and Noble will be $21 and the mom n pop bookstore will be $40.

You can't justify supporting them...I tried this Christmas. A book I bought my mom from our local bookstore was $45. Looked on Amazon when I got home and it was $25. Sorry, but never again.
Take a look at AbeBooks online... they are used but the ones rated "very good" or better are like new..$3 - $6..free shipping
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Originally Posted by YFMF View Post
Sears Maytag brand may be gone as the company that was making them dropped the contract, and didn't sears sell off Craftsman?

Maytag is not owned by Sears, Kenmore is.

Sears will no longer be selling Whirlpool or its brands which are Whirlpool, Maytag, KitchenAid and Jenn-Air.

Sears started selling on Amazon, and then the hundred year relationship ended. Sears Kenmore brand may still be made by Whirlpool.

Eddie Lampert keeps lending his own company money as he drives it into the ground. A slow death. Haven't bought from them in a decade.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/24/news...ool/index.html
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Originally Posted by YFMF View Post
Sears Maytag brand may be gone as the company that was making them dropped the contract, and didn't sears sell off Craftsman?
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Yes, I think Stanley B&D bought them out.
Sears deserves to die like the dinosaur it is - purely due to their leaderships never-ending gift of bad decision making.

That carnival sells everything under the sun and specializes in nothing. The two bullet-proof lines they had, tools and appliances, they started sabotaging by changing manufacturing to save money to shore up their bottom line. Sales of those things dropped and warranty issues increased. Then they divest their tool line to prolong their miserable existence.

I can’t believe the boards who allow management of these huge retailers to just keep their foot on the gas as they head for a concrete wall. At one point, Sears had the infrastructure and capital to crush amazon.
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Also check Salvation Army , Habitat for Humanity thrift stores etc. for books .
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Originally Posted by Jimm View Post
Yes, I think Stanley B&D bought them out.
I think so. Craftsman is sold at our local Ace hardware.
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Also check Salvation Army , Habitat for Humanity thrift stores etc. for books .
Never. Yellowed pages, busted bindings and pages stuck together by (best scenario) boogers.

Unless it is out of print and rare I'd never buy a used book.

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