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Old 02-12-2018, 07:54 PM
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With my little ones exploring a lot more I'm looking for a reliable hand gun safe i can keep in my night stand but easily accessible for my wife and I. I've been looking at the finger print recognition but not sure how reliable it is. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks
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I have a sentury brand with fingerprint recognition and key pad & key backups. Bolted to the side rail if the bed, with a magnet inside. Gun accessible from laying down in the bed easily. Fingerprint recognition has been flawless so far. Picked it up at Costco late last year for $99. Same exact purpose as yours.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
I have a sentury brand with fingerprint recognition and key pad & key backups. Bolted to the side rail if the bed, with a magnet inside. Gun accessible from laying down in the bed easily. Fingerprint recognition has been flawless so far. Picked it up at Costco late last year for $99. Same exact purpose as yours.
How many fingerprints will it accept? Looking for my wife to access it as well.
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Originally Posted by Finfever21 View Post
How many fingerprints will it accept? Looking for my wife to access it as well.
Mine holds 20 prints. I did all of my prints, as well as my wifes. When testing, I use different finger each time.
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Originally Posted by Finfever21 View Post
How many fingerprints will it accept? Looking for my wife to access it as well.
4 I believe. We each have our strong hand index and ring finger programmed to it.

One thing of note with handgun safes. If you read reviews about them, you will undoubtedly see something from a reviewer commenting that they are easy to break into. These are not intended for serious theft protection at all. I view mine as nothing more than access control. 1) to keep the gun out of my kids hands, and 2) should I suffer a home invasion and the intruder get to my bedroom before I am up and moving, keep it from being used against me. If someone wants the contents, they will likely just rip the whole thing off the bed, and take it with them.
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I hide in plain sight.

For my night stand I raised the bottom of the drawer and made a holder for one of my pistols. There's another fixed panel below the drawer so you have to pull out the drawer to get to the pistol.

There are other ideas online like wall cavities, vanities with hidden compartments, etc. I do not recommend anything that needs a "tool", magnet or special operation to open.

Plan it out and keep your mouth shut, the kids will never even know there's a firearm (or three) in the house.
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Originally Posted by rusty spoke View Post
I hide in plain sight.

For my night stand I raised the bottom of the drawer and made a holder for one of my pistols. There's another fixed panel below the drawer so you have to pull out the drawer to get to the pistol.

There are other ideas online like wall cavities, vanities with hidden compartments, etc. I do not recommend anything that needs a "tool", magnet or special operation to open.

Plan it out and keep your mouth shut, the kids will never even know there's a firearm (or three) in the house.
To each their own, but not in my house, and I am a certified gun nut. I'm simply not willing to risk a chambered weapon being found by a toddler, no matter how unlikely that it may be. Basically no way that they don't know about guns in the house. There are plenty of them. Around 40 at last count. None are accessible though.

Maybe, if the gun is not chambered and has a very stiff slide. Honestly, I would be perfectly OK with that, strictly from a safety standpoint, but it would make my wife less than comfortable with a 20 month old running around the house.

The other issue with hidden in plain site is access. I can open the safe much faster than even a night stand drawer.
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Originally Posted by rusty spoke View Post
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Plan it out and keep your mouth shut, the kids will never even know there's a firearm (or three) in the house.
Until they do.

I like these from AMSEC or Ft. Knox. No electronics or batteries to fail


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Originally Posted by rusty spoke View Post
I hide in plain sight.

For my night stand I raised the bottom of the drawer and made a holder for one of my pistols. There's another fixed panel below the drawer so you have to pull out the drawer to get to the pistol.

There are other ideas online like wall cavities, vanities with hidden compartments, etc. I do not recommend anything that needs a "tool", magnet or special operation to open.

Plan it out and keep your mouth shut, the kids will never even know there's a firearm (or three) in the house.

To each his own, but toddlers are pretty damned smart about finding hidden stuff and misusing what they find.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
4 I believe. We each have our strong hand index and ring finger programmed to it.

One thing of note with handgun safes. If you read reviews about them, you will undoubtedly see something from a reviewer commenting that they are easy to break into. These are not intended for serious theft protection at all. I view mine as nothing more than access control. 1) to keep the gun out of my kids hands, and 2) should I suffer a home invasion and the intruder get to my bedroom before I am up and moving, keep it from being used against me. If someone wants the contents, they will likely just rip the whole thing off the bed, and take it with them.

Not so much worried about the theft as I am the easy access should my wife or I need to get to it quickly. Thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by rusty spoke View Post
I hide in plain sight.

For my night stand I raised the bottom of the drawer and made a holder for one of my pistols. There's another fixed panel below the drawer so you have to pull out the drawer to get to the pistol.

There are other ideas online like wall cavities, vanities with hidden compartments, etc. I do not recommend anything that needs a "tool", magnet or special operation to open.

Plan it out and keep your mouth shut, the kids will never even know there's a firearm (or three) in the house.
I do like that idea but as a paramedic/ ff I've been to too many careless calls of kids getting hold of parents guns and it doesn't end well. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Elusive View Post
Until they do.

I like these from AMSEC or Ft. Knox. No electronics or batteries to fail



How long have you had yours from fort Knox? I'm looking into these and concerned about the mechanical buttons sticking or not operating properly. Any issues with yours yet? Thanks
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Originally Posted by Finfever21 View Post
Not so much worried about the theft as I am the easy access should my wife or I need to get to it quickly. Thanks for the info
Still have the box mine came in. Specific model is Sentry QAP1BE. I did add 2 holes through he back to bolt the magnet in. I had the magnet in the same place for years, prior to having kids. Dust ruffle pretty much covers everything when you want it out of site. Other thing I did was to use lithium batteries, which I have found last much longer. Planning to replace them annually.


This is the safe: https://www.amazon.com/SentrySafe-Pi.../dp/B00EXQW672

And the magnet: https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Tact...rds=gun+magnet
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Speaking of batteries- have heard some eat them pretty quick. What are guys seeing for battery life?
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I have a nightstand safe with keypad entry and backup key if pad fails.. I believe it's a Sentry. Was relatively inexpensive at Walmart.

For me I value keeping kids safe (mine and neighbors) over an extra second or two. I have a baseball bat under bed in the unlikely event I can't press 4 numbers quickly. I tested myself and can open safe with my eyes closed. The correct combination arms me with a chambered Glock 19, hollow points, spare magazines, and taclight on front rail.
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"Little ones exploring" is a critical phrase. With that phrase in play, any gun in the same location as bullets for that gun, is not safe. I'll take the flack that comes with that declaration, but I stand by the validity of what I have stated.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
4 I believe. We each have our strong hand index and ring finger programmed to it.

One thing of note with handgun safes. If you read reviews about them, you will undoubtedly see something from a reviewer commenting that they are easy to break into. These are not intended for serious theft protection at all. I view mine as nothing more than access control. 1) to keep the gun out of my kids hands, and 2) should I suffer a home invasion and the intruder get to my bedroom before I am up and moving, keep it from being used against me. If someone wants the contents, they will likely just rip the whole thing off the bed, and take it with them.
1)If the safe can be hacked, what's stopping your kid from looking up some Youtube video on how to open it? Tons of lock picking videos too.

2)If the intruder has you at gun point he's going to tell you to put your finger on the button.

3) Yes, because you are advertising you have a firearm.
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From many years of experience I can tell you that I will never depend on anything with the name "Sentry" on it. We get them in the shop very often that won't open.

I also won't depend on anything electronic to secure a weapon. I've seen too many of those fail as well. I also had a customer tell me that b ought one of the fingerprint models and after programming it to her print, her granddaughter put her finger on it and opened it. I don't remember the brand.

The mechanical locks are VERY reliable. The same one is used on the Amsec, Fort Knox, and Permavault. The boxes are pretty heavy gauge as well. The only recommendation I have is to make sure the mounting screws for the lock are tight. Maybe it was a bad lot, but I got several of the Permavaults in where the screws were loose and the lock came off in transit, still in the box. Other than that, no problems at all.
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Edit. I forgot to mention that most of the electronic ones make a beep or jingle when buttons are pressed or the correct combination us used. That alerts the intruder of where you are. Might be good, or might be bad. The mechanical ones are pretty quiet.
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Originally Posted by Finfever21 View Post
How long have you had yours from fort Knox? I'm looking into these and concerned about the mechanical buttons sticking or not operating properly. Any issues with yours yet? Thanks
I have several of them and have had them for 10-20 years. Never had a problem

I tried one of the first gen biometric boxes and had trouble accessing it (mfg recalled it due to an electronics failure - fast battery depletion) so I decided to go low-tech

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