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I live near the water, everything sort of slopes toward the water and our house is between call-it the higher ground and the water. We also have a very high water table, as-in it after a hard rain if you were to dig a small hole it would be full of water.

A few years ago, I cleared some small saplings and such from the woods beyond my yard and planted sod. Well in that time the sod has come and gone, mainly due to the soggy back yard.

When it rains, that area along the treeline ponds. Now I've attempted to attack it by installing a French drain system emptying to two 50 gallon basins. This has helped mitigate the ponding some, but the problem is, during prolonged down pours the high water table essentially fills the drain and basin rendering it in operable.

This was seems to be collecting at a low spot, again primarily along the treeline and not so much back in the woods. No issues around our house or stuff like that, just a very soggy, water logged 1/3 of the back yard.

Over the last two days it has been pouring nonstop, and our backyard looks like a swamp, worst I've seen it.

Has anyone regraded their yard due to ponding? How did it go? Any sense on cost for a 2000 square foot area?

I would assume they would have to scrap and bring in new soil and such?
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
I live near the water, everything sort of slopes toward the water and our house is between call-it the higher ground and the water. We also have a very high water table, as-in it after a hard rain if you were to dig a small hole it would be full of water.

A few years ago, I cleared some small saplings and such from the woods beyond my yard and planted sod. Well in that time the sod has come and gone, mainly due to the soggy back yard.

When it rains, that area along the treeline ponds. Now I've attempted to attack it by installing a French drain system emptying to two 50 gallon basins. This has helped mitigate the ponding some, but the problem is, during prolonged down pours the high water table essentially fills the drain and basin rendering it in operable.

This was seems to be collecting at a low spot, again primarily along the treeline and not so much back in the woods. No issues around our house or stuff like that, just a very soggy, water logged 1/3 of the back yard.

Over the last two days it has been pouring nonstop, and our backyard looks like a swamp, worst I've seen it.

Has anyone regraded their yard due to ponding? How did it go? Any sense on cost for a 2000 square foot area?

I would assume they would have to scrap and bring in new soil and such?
Similar situation, but not quite to that extent, bought a 70's house on a canal, the yard has built up over time so that the yard is now higher than the foundation. When it rains water ends up against the house and in a downpour can ender the garage through the side door.

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Originally Posted by OffshoreApparel.com View Post
Similar situation, but not quite to that extent, bought a 70's house on a canal, the yard has built up over time so that the yard is now higher than the foundation. When it rains water ends up against the house and in a downpour can ender the garage through the side door.

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Here's what it lools like after the mansoon over the last 48 hrs... My french drain is under water and the pool is growing. lol. this is am extreme example though.

ps receny took down some trees and grinded roots.

Thinking of even some type of retention pond back in the woods.

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have you thought about putting in a pump in the drain basins you built and sprinkler out in the woods or pump into a drainage ditch if there are any around?
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Is it possible to dig a trench from the spot in the yard that "ponds", and install a 4'' or 6" PVC pipe to drain around the house to a lower spot by the water?
Fill the trench with the pipe back up, re-sod and install a grate the keep out brush and what not. A small mesh grate could keep out leaves.
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Yikes! Do you live in India? I would plant a few willow trees. They soak up water like a sponge.
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Nice area for a pond.
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If you are willing to give up all your grass and start over get a grading company in there who understands how to use a transit. It really looks like you are on a large flat spot, Is there a place to send the water without being sued? Is there a danger of it backing up into the house? A guy who understands grading and shoots all of the grades can fix that for you assuming you have a place to send the water and you can bring in some dirt to create elevation, sloping away from the house.
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If you are willing to give up all your grass and start over get a grading company in there who understands how to use a transit. It really looks like you are on a large flat spot, Is there a place to send the water without being sued? Is there a danger of it backing up into the house? A guy who understands grading and shoots all of the grades can fix that for you assuming you have a place to send the water and you can bring in some dirt to create elevation, sloping away from the house.
Grass has a real tough time growing in soggy soil anyway. The woods (my woods) behind the house is the only place I can think of. I would just like to move that low spot further back in the woods. It almost looks like it's damming up against the area between the grass and the tree line. Seems like if I could get a grading company to scrap that area behind the water and grade from the mid of the yard back to the woods might be a solution?

I contacted a local grading/excavating company to come out and provide a proposal.
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Originally Posted by Jus Teasin View Post
Is it possible to dig a trench from the spot in the yard that "ponds", and install a 4'' or 6" PVC pipe to drain around the house to a lower spot by the water?
Fill the trench with the pipe back up, re-sod and install a grate the keep out brush and what not. A small mesh grate could keep out leaves.
There really isn't a place to funnel the water to, not unless I create some kind of retention pond in my woods.
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have you thought about putting in a pump in the drain basins you built and sprinkler out in the woods or pump into a drainage ditch if there are any around?
I have thought about it, although not sure how feasible it would be given the amount of ground water involved. No drainage near my house so any water that is redirected would have to be funneled into the woods somehow.

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How Koch area do you own in the woods?
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If I had to grade my yard it would receive a solid D for potential.
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How Koch area do you own in the woods?
Not sure I understand the question, which leads me to believe I don't know.
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If you dig a little pond you can use that dirt to backfill up closer to the house. Just be sure the outflow from the pond has a place to go. Does it drop off anywhere near you or is this just a flat plane as far as the eye can see. I assume you don't have basements there. My sister lived in a place like that and after they built a school, a quarter mile away mile away, It disturbed the ground water flow and made her basement an indoor pool every time it rained. Keep that in mind if you are digging a pond.
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Originally Posted by gfretwell View Post
If you dig a little pond you can use that dirt to backfill up closer to the house. Just be sure the outflow from the pond has a place to go. Does it drop off anywhere near you or is this just a flat plane as far as the eye can see. I assume you don't have basements there. My sister lived in a place like that and after they built a school, a quarter mile away mile away, It disturbed the ground water flow and made her basement an indoor pool every time it rained. Keep that in mind if you are digging a pond.
We have a basement that I finished 4 yrs ago. Stays dry - trenched and with 2 sumps. The water isn't up against the house, it's in this one area in the yard at the tree line. It's almost like a low spot between the house and my woods. This is truly an extreme case though, we've never seen this much rain constant for so long.
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
Not sure I understand the question, which leads me to believe I don't know.
Lol.
Sorry. I was trying to type; how much area do you own in the woods.
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Originally Posted by Fish_DOut View Post
Lol.
Sorry. I was trying to type; how much area do you own in the woods.
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Thought that might be some grader code speak.

All of it
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Looks like you would need to cut a swell into the woods at the low spot on the left side.
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
I have thought about it, although not sure how feasible it would be given the amount of ground water involved. No drainage near my house so any water that is redirected would have to be funneled into the woods somehow.
do the drains and basins you built stay full all of the time because of ground water?
I would think if you have a basement then the ground water cannot be that bad around there..
most people drain things down to the water body they are living near.

I think they were asking how many acres you have in those woods. saying all does not answer much

I am not sure what a swell is

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