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Old 02-11-2018, 03:31 AM
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Default Fatal accident at Roebling Road Raceway

I saw this on the news this morning. The Porsche Club of America appeared to be having an event there this weekend and an accident with driver and instructor turned into a fatality on the track with one person airlifted to the hospital. I know some of you guys drive out there on occasion, so I hope anyone here wasn't involved.

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http://m.wtoc.com/wtoc/db/350145/content/TJ2WM1dn
Old 02-11-2018, 03:59 AM
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Sorry to hear
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I hate hearing stories like this and hope the instructor recovers.

This is part of the reason I stopped tracking my street car and went to a caged/prepped racecar. Street cars have gotten REALLY fast but don't have the crash/safety gear you really need if things go wrong.
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First turn? Fastest part of the track, but nothing to run into. Probably lifted, trailing throttle oversteer took over, flipped it?

Some novices "freeze" when the going gets rough. Buddy of mine was an instructor in a situation like this. Big Mustang. Student never lifted for a turn..went straight off the end. Even with my friend going lift! Brake! Hit a wall..hard.
Old 02-11-2018, 05:49 AM
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I ran off on my 600cc bike there during a private Nate Kern track day and ended up all the way by the trees. Very fast & fun track, but very limited on run offs.
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Lots of trees and tires at the end of turn one now. Depending on what he was driving, he could have been doing 150+ at the end of the straight. RIP, my fellow gear head.
Old 02-11-2018, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mv rapscallion View Post
Lots of trees and tires at the end of turn one now. Depending on what he was driving, he could have been doing 150+ at the end of the straight. RIP, my fellow gear head.
It's been a few years since I've been to Roebling. Pine trees grow fast. Decades ago Sir Jackie Stewart drove there and declared it dangerous. But that was before the pit straight modification. I paved the track the first time...dam it was rough. Couldn't do anything about the turn9/front straight hump.
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Just drove back this am, cancelled today. Came out of a class around 4 yesterday and there was a helicopter at turn one. Not sure but think panic/late pass led to rolling up the tire wall, newer 911. Group is going to refund and most/all will donate to family and send condolences. Very sad, track was slippery in am and dried out nice after lunch. First timer to a PC DE, bummer. Ga HP is investigating and has car/black box, will take a few weeks to hash out. I will try to update any news if interested. Thoughts to all involved, corner stand/flag guy shaken up also, as he was first to scene.
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Originally Posted by BPM View Post
Just drove back this am, cancelled today. Came out of a class around 4 yesterday and there was a helicopter at turn one. Not sure but think panic/late pass led to rolling up the tire wall, newer 911. Group is going to refund and most/all will donate to family and send condolences. Very sad, track was slippery in am and dried out nice after lunch. First timer to a PC DE, bummer. Ga HP is investigating and has car/black box, will take a few weeks to hash out. I will try to update any news if interested. Thoughts to all involved, corner stand/flag guy shaken up also, as he was first to scene.
Panic does happen. Passing? You really don't want to be outside on turn 1.

Over the decades of racing, more people die travelling to and from events than die on the track.

Didn't Roebling build a busstop after start finish for club events?
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RIP driver.

Roebling is / was my home track when I was racing motorcycles, we did not use a bus stop on the straight, it was an indicated 170mph+ straight for me and ANYTHING could go wrong at the end of it.

I actually got out of racing shortly after losing a friend of mine in T1 @ Roebling during one of our races.
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Two cars involved, one fine, the other ended up on earth berm covered with tires about 250 feet from the pavement at turn one. Nothing at start finish line, wide open to turn one, people like to drag race and go full out to turn one, still was a little slick down there from early rain. Details will come out, just somewhat speculation now.
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Originally Posted by BPM View Post
Two cars involved, one fine, the other ended up on earth berm covered with tires about 250 feet from the pavement at turn one. Nothing at start finish line, wide open to turn one, people like to drag race and go full out to turn one, still was a little slick down there from early rain. Details will come out, just somewhat speculation now.
250'..not much in the grass at speed. Guess the runoff has decreased.

Track days can be dangerour for novices. Especially the first day.
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Prayers for drivers and families. I have a lot of laps there myself on bikes. Turn one is very fast. I had my own mishap there.
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Sorry this happened; street cars should not be on these tracks.
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Prayers for drivers and families. I have a lot of laps there myself on bikes. Turn one is very fast. I had my own mishap there.
Didn't the bikes run counter-race sometimes?
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RIP driver.
Prayers for the family.
Old 02-11-2018, 07:21 AM
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I just remembered why this is a sensitive subject. Deeply buried in my memory. Had this happen to ME at Roebling. My Datsun 510, ITC car with cage. Took my nephew to the track. He got in drove slowly a few minutes (just short sections). Going counter-race out of 8/9, he floored it. I had to YELL! at him to lift going into 7. YELL at him. He was locked in with the go pedal on the floor. Froze. Scared the shit out of me. That was it. No off-track excursion, because I caught him in time.
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My brother and his girlfriend were there. My brothers first track day ever driving their 911. Crazy sad thing to happen.
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
Sorry this happened; street cars should not be on these tracks.
Mike, It's not so much the car but the driver. FIRST thing you should learn is the limits of the car. Braking. Lose in a turn a couple times. Scares the shit outa ya, but you learn what you can and can't do. Going fast is easy. What separates a good driver from a bad driver is knowing the limits, staying out of trouble, and doing the right thing when everything goes to hell.

Club speed events are not always diligent about proper training. This is the problem.
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It happened during my blue blue driving session. Very very sad day for us. Word is it was a medical condition and the driver did not let off into turn 1. The instructor grabbed the wheel to avoid hitting the car in front of them making the turn but unfortunately hit the berm head on over 100 mph.

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