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Old 02-09-2018, 05:55 AM
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Default College tours...that time for my daughter.

So the week after next we will do the Florida swing. Daughter is a Junior and does well and interested in Math/Science (Engineering?) Not sure on that yet everyone knows interests change. So here is where we are headed. I would welcome any input.
These are in order of interest:
FSU
U of F
UCF
Stetson
USF
Eckerd (I think she likes the beach proximity, probably a NO GO)
U of Tampa
and UNF to a lesser degree but we have family in Jax.

It will be a quick week....and then North Carolina in April. Good way to burn two weeks vacation. Not.
Old 02-09-2018, 06:00 AM
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University of Miami. If she has good grades and test scores, they offer generous academic scholarships.(not based on need). My daughter graduated with an engineering degree from Miami and got into top grad schools.
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IMO for an engineering degree UF would be the best choice. Good luck and glad she's not getting a degree in liberal arts.
Old 02-09-2018, 06:11 AM
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Thank you for your input... Ive always focused on building her confidence in Math. I really think its the basis for any kind of problem solving. Besides, the bank of Mom and Dad have guidelines to what we will fund. Liberal arts are not on that list.

I have heard the Miami is a good school and is safe etc. Im just not at all excited about that area.

I should say that although we live in Maine, we have family from Jax to Bonita.
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
IMO for an engineering degree UF would be the best choice.
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School choice for engineering can be important depending on exact major.
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I felt the same way about Miami until I visited. Coral Gables is a nice area and the campus was impressive. Also, a much smaller school than the large state schools. If you are out of state, and she qualifies for scholarships, it may be much cheaper for you. It cost less for us to send her to Miamithan it did to send our son to FAU even with in state tuition.
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Skip UNF. I grew up in Jax. Its not even close to the same league as the others on your list. Its more of a community college.
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Skip UNF. I grew up in Jax. Its not even close to the same league as the others on your list. Its more of a community college.
I have two sisters in Jax... they pretty much said the same thing.
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Florida Institute for Tech worth a darn?

Good STEM leaning.
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Perhaps the list should be shorter...visit more than four schools and you have to wonder why.
Makes the decision harder for most kids.
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I'd consider adding Flagler.

Remove U of Tampa. I went there for a semester and it was a joke. Lots and lots of blow. 15 min of HW a night. Just not a good environment and the teachers were laughable. I had more difficult classes in middle school. It is almost like a 4 year junior college. I transferred out after the first semester when I realized all of this. The campus is stunning, though.
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Has she considered a military academy? If she is a junior she still has time to start the application process. It is certainly not for everyone but it really gets you a great start. My daughter is on her second year at the Air Force academy and is an Astro major.
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I'd argue that your daughter needs to do more research and classify schools into categories - Safety, Reach, and Platinum (or similar). Based your analysis off of valid criteria including evaluating specific programs - a great Engineering program may not be a great Business program, and vice versa. Beach proximity should be a big red flag as criteria.

We put 2 through college, and grad school. First one we toured roughly 1/2 dozen schools. Next one we toured 3?

Put schools into categories - big enrollment vs. small enrollment. Public vs. private. Etc. You do NOT need to visit all schools before you apply. After acceptance, you can visit schools to make a decision. There are incredible virtual tours available to help narrow the search.

One son applied to several top schools in California, MIT, and several in the Midwest. Made no trips outside the Midwest. Had he gotten into any school, and felt it was better than any other school he got into, we would have visited at that point.

Also - and this is key - see if they have ROLLING ADMISSIONS. Both of my sons had an acceptance in October of their senior year (apply by early September). That takes a tremendous weight off their shoulders - waiting till March or April is insane - one son was wait listed at MIT and then in April got a no, but he already had a yes from other schools.
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Yes, it is - Florida Institute of Technology (FIT), but it isn't cheap. My son went there and got dual BS degrees in Aerospace Engineering and Math. Penn State then turned around and gave him a full scholarship and a stipend to get his MS and PhD in Aerospace Engineering.

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Good STEM leaning.
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If your daughter is thinking engineering then UF is the place to be. The company I work for recruits hard at UF and mostly everyone that works for the company is a UF graduate.
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Florida Institute for Tech worth a darn?

Good STEM leaning.
almost 20 years ago our son looked at and applied to FT.
Because he was from New England, not only was he accepted but they offered him a very generous scholarship
He really liked it there because of the labs and small class sizes but ultimately chose and graduated from WPI because it was closer to home.
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We did pretty much the same circuit 4 years ago. My son is a junior at UCF. With my son, after the tour of each campus he basically said "no I really didn't like it" or "I really liked it here". He eliminated USF even though his girlfriend was going there. He just didn't feel excited about it. My point being your daughter should get a feel for what she wants after the visit. For my son, it came down to FSU and UCF. He really like FSU campus, But UCF was closer to home. We had him do a pro's and cons list and he decided on UCF. He really likes it there. Some points we considered. FSU campus was nice, had a great collage feel. Once you got off campus it got a little sketchy. Mostly bars and fast food restaurants. Living in South Florida, it was a 7 hour trip home. UCF is under expansion. lots of new housing in area and building on campus. Housing off campus was not crazy expensive. Lots to do in the area. Disney, Universal, and Sea World are 30 minutes away. My son and his friends go all the time. They will head to Disney Springs aka downtown Disney and eat there and just hang out. With your daughter being so far from home having fun places to go might keep her from missing home. As in any area, there is crime/safety to think about. My son has had no problems. Sorry a little long reply. If you need more info on UCF just let me know.
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Originally Posted by rickboat View Post
I'd argue that your daughter needs to do more research and classify schools into categories - Safety, Reach, and Platinum (or similar). Based your analysis off of valid criteria including evaluating specific programs - a great Engineering program may not be a great Business program, and vice versa. Beach proximity should be a big red flag as criteria.

We put 2 through college, and grad school. First one we toured roughly 1/2 dozen schools. Next one we toured 3?

Put schools into categories - big enrollment vs. small enrollment. Public vs. private. Etc. You do NOT need to visit all schools before you apply. After acceptance, you can visit schools to make a decision. There are incredible virtual tours available to help narrow the search.

One son applied to several top schools in California, MIT, and several in the Midwest. Made no trips outside the Midwest. Had he gotten into any school, and felt it was better than any other school he got into, we would have visited at that point.

Also - and this is key - see if they have ROLLING ADMISSIONS. Both of my sons had an acceptance in October of their senior year (apply by early September). That takes a tremendous weight off their shoulders - waiting till March or April is insane - one son was wait listed at MIT and then in April got a no, but he already had a yes from other schools.
Agreed and good info. She has a good head on her shoulders so the beach thing really isnt the consideration....just what I see.
We think we are getting a good head start so the pressure isnt too great at this point.
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We did pretty much the same circuit 4 years ago. My son is a junior at UCF. With my son, after the tour of each campus he basically said "no I really didn't like it" or "I really liked it here". He eliminated USF even though his girlfriend was going there. He just didn't feel excited about it. My point being your daughter should get a feel for what she wants after the visit. For my son, it came down to FSU and UCF. He really like FSU campus, But UCF was closer to home. We had him do a pro's and cons list and he decided on UCF. He really likes it there. Some points we considered. FSU campus was nice, had a great collage feel. Once you got off campus it got a little sketchy. Mostly bars and fast food restaurants. Living in South Florida, it was a 7 hour trip home. UCF is under expansion. lots of new housing in area and building on campus. Housing off campus was not crazy expensive. Lots to do in the area. Disney, Universal, and Sea World are 30 minutes away. My son and his friends go all the time. They will head to Disney Springs aka downtown Disney and eat there and just hang out. With your daughter being so far from home having fun places to go might keep her from missing home. As in any area, there is crime/safety to think about. My son has had no problems. Sorry a little long reply. If you need more info on UCF just let me know.
Thank you Nick. I appreciate the info. She has had 3 cousins graduate UCF, 2 graduate FSU and one currently at FSU. The visits will help determine the feel of the place as you mentioned. Its also good for us so we can feel comfortable. We did visit JMU, UVA, Villanova and VTech last spring. That was helpful to go there. It eliminated UVA as one of her choices, which I didnt think would be the case.
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I travel to all the FL campuses for work, sans FSU. I'm in analytical chemistry field and sometimes interact with engineering. If her career path ever needs exposure to research lab experience, UF is the best choice. They carry the lion's share of research throughout the state.

USF and UCF are also growing in their research programs, so they are viable options. I believe the engineering program over at USF is very highly rated. They are working to shed their commuter school image. I'm a UCF grad and have many friends in the sciences from there. I can vouch for the quality of the programs.

Strike Eckerd (unless marine bio is an option), Stetson, UTampa, and UNF for the "hard science" perspective.

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