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Old 02-07-2018, 05:27 PM
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Ok guys, I am about to buy a piece of property for my wife and I to build on eventually but in the mean time I want to establish a lawn. The land, about 6 acres, was planted with beans and picked around Thanksgiving. It has been sitting since.

What would I need to do to get something like centipede seed on the ground and growing this season? The ground is relatively flat right now with some light washing on one corner of the lot. Plan will be to bring some dirt in later but for now I just want to start holding dirt a little better with the grass

How much seed per acre? Pre treat, prep, etc....?

I have a new Kubota 3901 with a box blade, grader, bush hog, and 4 in 1 bucket. I have access to a disk and PTO seeder.

I also plan on planting some sort of fast growing evergreen tree around the perimeter for privacy down the road. I found some tree that are used in Canada for wind break that grow to around 30-35 feet at about 6 feet a year. I am open to suggestions though.
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City Boy here.

Does your area have a County Agent? If yes, chat with him/her.
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Step 1: get a soil test and tell them what you intend to plant.

Report back with the results.
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Seed doesn't work on it's own. Needs water or it could sprout then die. Also not good to just toss on ground. Needs to be planted. Several ways to accomplish that task like using a disc turned straight so it won't cut deep.

Fast growing trees will be a fast growing head ache.
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Soil sample(add what is needed), disk/till, cultipacker, seed, cultipack, water, water, water
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Will take a good bit of seed. That’s not cheap, but cheaper than sod.
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NCSU should have a county agent that can point you in the right direction.

Centipede is a pain in the ass to grow from seed.
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Ill look into the soil sample first. Any thoughts on another type of grass? I will not have access to water it until we build. While I could go ahead with the the water tap, I would prefer not to due to expense. I feel like it is something that I would use to establish the yard and then it would sit unused for a few years until we build.

As far as the tree issue, what makes a fast growing tree more difficult that any other? I am open to suggestion on that as well. I just want something that grows pretty dense and tall enough to stay fairly well out of sight.

The lot is L shaped and the driveway will be around 500' long and then open up into 5 acres. I will have a lot inbetween me and the main road. I want to plant trees In the front and on the side where I would have direct line of sight with the neighbors.
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your not in Canada -- plant trees that grow in NC--
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200 lbs per acre should be plenty. a rye grass grows pretty good down here but i dont know about the carolinas.
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Bermuda or zoysia. Both will take a good bit of water to get up initially, but there are a lot of drought tolerant species out there. If you want to plant from seed specifically, Bermuda will be the way to go. Site One landscape supply has a great drought tolerant seeded Bermuda called Sun Sport.
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No clue how long it will be until you build, have you considered the property tax consequences of giving up your ag exemption. Here property taxes are significant and an ag exemption reduces them by 80% or more depending on how it zoned. By any chance is one of you close-by neighbors running a farm; if so you might consider a lease arraignment that would generate income and maintain the ag exemption until you're ready to build.

Six acres isn't really big enough for grazing cattle but you could rent grazing rights for a handful of cattle for part of the year if it's fenced.
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If you plan to grade the yard later I would definitely not spend the money on centipede or bermuda seed right now. As a former ag field I imagine it will have a good bit of weeds and dormant "volunteer" crop seeds. It will certainly take some herbicide prep and a few seasons to turn it into a nice lawn. Not to mention the damage building traffic and laydown will do. Personally I would just spread rye right now. But as mentioned above local extension offices are a very good resource.
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As previously mentioned, don't plant without getting a soil sample. You could very well be wasting your time and your money without it first.

As for the trees, Leyland Cypress planted in 2 rows staggered will provide you a nice privacy "fence". They're inexpensive to buy when small, grow rapidly, grow tall, and are fairly hardy.
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Based on your situation, I would look at orchard grass.
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If you're planting evergreens, make sure that you know the critters in the area. Deer ravage most evergreens. Many are climate-specific, so a Canadian species may not successfully grown in North Carolina.
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If you going through with this I would consider clover so you're left with better soil. You do not want to plant anything that isn't an annual until your ready to plant your final lawn after you build.
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Leyland Cypress
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Funny thing about centipede...we've got better centipede at our farm (once was pasture) than I do at my house. Don't do a damn thing to it, either...just grew wild (as wild as it could be, I guess).
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Originally Posted by chrispnet View Post
Based on your situation, I would look at orchard grass.
Most of eastern NC is too warm for it.

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