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Old 02-06-2018, 04:35 PM
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Letís pretend Iím a member of a non profit EMC co-op and would like to ask THT members opinion.
Letís call the person in question T.
T is an employee at the co-op . T ownes a side business .Im not saying what the business is but T is hired by the co-op general manager to do work for the co-op for which T is employed .The jobs are not bid out like normal work should be and the apperence is not good . This work is not your normal small change work but huge amounts of money . We will pretend hundreds of thousands over a few years.
What is your feelings on this.
Old 02-06-2018, 04:37 PM
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Thank you. Please drive through

Ummmm. Can you repeat the question?
Old 02-06-2018, 04:42 PM
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I know it’s hard to follow so read it slow.
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does the Coop require a bidding process to get this type of work done?

Just need to have T fix what is wrong with the work he did
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Hypotheticaly it sounds as if there is the potential for a conflict of interest.

Ethics & legality are harder to work out.

Is it illegal or unethical for tRump to have a hotel down the street from the White House?

Questions like this will employ lawyers for hundreds of years
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Can we get a flow chart?
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How's the work that's been performed ?
Old 02-06-2018, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brass Monkey View Post
Hypotheticaly it sounds as if there is the potential for a conflict of interest.

Ethics & legality are harder to work out.

Is it illegal or unethical for tRump to have a hotel down the street from the White House?

Questions like this will employ lawyers for hundreds of years
I was thinking that if there are no bids how would the members know whether or not they are overpaying for the service and possible kick backs to the manager. Less possibility with the bid system.
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Is sexual harassment involved?
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Don't be messin' with Mr. T


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Can't really follow the question but I can tell you that your State law will govern.
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If "T" has track record of getting things done quickly at a reasonable price, then keep subbing it out to "T". In this economy it's tough to find someone who is dependable, reasonable, and quick. I realize that a non-profit has to do their due diligence but I am betting money, marbles, or chalk that "T" will be in the running or, in this economy he may tell you he is out of the game.
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We had a similar situation. Management liked using the same contractors. When we started getting bids, everything got cheaper
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What is the relationship between the manager and the employee who is also acting as a contractor? Does the coop SOP for hiring of contractors require a bid process?
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Originally Posted by fireisland1 View Post
We had a similar situation. Management liked using the same contractors. When we started getting bids, everything got cheaper
Cheaper up front isn't always 'better' short term, and may end up being more expensive long term to have the cheap solution corrected.
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Is sexual harassment involved?
Yes please!
Old 02-06-2018, 05:03 PM
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Does "T", have a vowel at the end of his last name? If so delete this post.
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You should get bids, but as above, "T" might actually be the best supplier for the job - or at least may have a vested interest in making it happen.

I do agree it sounds like a conflict of interest and there should be bids to at least make sure that "T" is charging market rates. If he's not, absolutely throw the book at him.
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There should always be a biding process, unethical to say the least but then again, what kind of pricing is he giving? Sometimes it's best not to wake the sleeping dog.

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