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Old 02-05-2018, 06:29 PM
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What are my chances of getting good eagle, alligator, deer, and other wildlife photos with this 500mm lens and camera body?


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Canon EOS Rebel T6i DSLR Camera with Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Lens + Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Lens + 500mm Preset Lens + 2x Memory Cards + 50" Tripod + Accessories Bundle (25 Items)

Thanks for any help. Price is 799 dollars which is pretty cheap compared to other Canon deals.
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I would say not good. You're buying the camera and the 18-55 lens. The other 2 lenses aren't worth much. Is that one of those bundle deals on eBay? I would stay away from them.
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Originally Posted by Mako 234 View Post
I would say not good. You're buying the camera and the 18-55 lens. The other 2 lenses aren't worth much. Is that one of those bundle deals on eBay? I would stay away from them.

It is an Amazon deal. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I wondered that too, if I was just wasting my money on this deal.
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You’ll be fine with that pkg. I use a 70-200 f2.8 L series IS,and get awesome wildlife and action photos. The lens alone was over 1500.00. Of course, the 18-55 won’t be your go to lens for wildlife, unless it’s at the zoo.
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The 500 mm "preset" lens is very sketchy and will not give you the results you are looking for.

I get sensational results on birds and rockets with this:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...Autofocus.html
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Originally Posted by sharktripper View Post
Youíll be fine with that pkg. I use a 70-200 f2.8 L series IS,and get awesome wildlife and action photos. The lens alone was over 1500.00. Of course, the 18-55 wonít be your go to lens for wildlife, unless itís at the zoo.
The 500 mm lens is a f/8 fixed manual lens. The 75-300 is considered one of Canon's worst lenses. You can't compare a 70-200 f/2.8 L IS to either of them. 500 mm on a crop body is not easy to hold still.

90% of the stuff that comes in those bundle deals are Chinese junk. The camera and lenses are usually open box deals. That's why they're so cheap.
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Overall that is a pretty nice camera, for a hobbiest, such as myself. However, that 500mm lens is not a good lens at all.

The 75mm-300mm lens is okay, but at at 300mm it is f5.6 which is slow. You will need a longer shutter time, which increases the chances of a blurry picture either due to the animals moving, or you moving.

Wildlife photography is not easy, but overall I'd say that is a decent set up.
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My wife has the same camera. I bought her a 500MM fixed lens and the 2x converter, do not waste your time on that lens. For Christmas I got her a 150 - 600 Sigma AF lens, which has autofocus. She is looking forward to using it once the birds come back in the spring.

I bought her camera from Canon as a refurb'ed. It is now a year old and works fine. Not sure how their refurb deals compare to Amazon, but might want to check them out.
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Originally Posted by sharktripper View Post
Youíll be fine with that pkg. I use a 70-200 f2.8 L series IS,and get awesome wildlife and action photos. The lens alone was over 1500.00. Of course, the 18-55 wonít be your go to lens for wildlife, unless itís at the zoo.
IS 70-200L is my go to lens for just about everything outdoors (hunting, sports, wildlife walks etc.)

Have a 17-55 I use for everything else.

Old reliable Canon 40D with the 200L takes great pictures but it's a pain to put in your pocket.
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Originally Posted by Lobstercatcher229 View Post
What are my chances of getting good eagle, alligator, deer, and other wildlife photos with this 500mm lens and camera body?


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Canon EOS Rebel T6i DSLR Camera with Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Lens + Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Lens + 500mm Preset Lens + 2x Memory Cards + 50" Tripod + Accessories Bundle (25 Items)

Thanks for any help. Price is 799 dollars which is pretty cheap compared to other Canon deals.
Are you looking to start a hobby, or is this a one time thing?

If a one time thing, I would strongly recommend you rent the camera lens (and maybe body). Under $100 a week for much better lens.

If this is for a hobby, I'd get a cheaper body and spend your money on better glass.

I'm guessing this is going to be for daytime shooting so any DLSR made in the last 10 years is going to give you a solid picture - the glass you are using is going to be the limiting factor.

If nighttime shooting, you aren't going to get any sort of usable result at that range with that equipment if you target is moving even a little bit.

I'll be brutally honest. The likelihood of getting good shots of eagles flying with any gear you are willing to spend your money on is low. Trying to move a camera/lens combo that has sufficient reach to zoom in on an eagle (so you can frame the shot on a moving target) and snap the photo without blur is massively difficult.

Go, enjoy the experience, and buy a professionals picture
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EOS Rebel T7i DSLR Camera with 18-135mm Lens

I've been happy with this combo.
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Originally Posted by MattGoose View Post
Are you looking to start a hobby, or is this a one time thing?

If a one time thing, I would strongly recommend you rent the camera lens (and maybe body). Under $100 a week for much better lens.

If this is for a hobby, I'd get a cheaper body and spend your money on better glass.

I'm guessing this is going to be for daytime shooting so any DLSR made in the last 10 years is going to give you a solid picture - the glass you are using is going to be the limiting factor.

If nighttime shooting, you aren't going to get any sort of usable result at that range with that equipment if you target is moving even a little bit.

I'll be brutally honest. The likelihood of getting good shots of eagles flying with any gear you are willing to spend your money on is low. Trying to move a camera/lens combo that has sufficient reach to zoom in on an eagle (so you can frame the shot on a moving target) and snap the photo without blur is massively difficult.

Go, enjoy the experience, and buy a professionals picture
Thanks for taking the time to post. I live a couple of blocks from an eagle's nest and was wanting to take a clear picture of the eagle sitting still in a tree or in its nest. They move around my house to various trees.
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Originally Posted by Lobstercatcher229 View Post
Thanks for taking the time to post. I live a couple of blocks from an eagle's nest and was wanting to take a clear picture of the eagle sitting still in a tree or in its nest. They move around my house to various trees.
If that is your end goal, I'd rent something for a week or two and see what you can get.

Rent this:

https://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon-7d

And this:

https://www.lensrentals.com/rent/can...4.5-5.6l-is-ii

Find a good weather window, grab a filter or three, save hundreds of dollars and be more likely to get the shot.
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If I were you, and I know I am not, I would buy the T6i kit that comes with the 18-55.

Canon has it refurbished for $448.99 here: https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/c...it-refurbished

Then, I would purchase the Canon 70-300 IS II USM lens which is far superior to the 75-300 lens you referenced in the bundle. Again, you can pick it up refurbished from Canon for $439.99.

https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/c...rchTerm=70-300

No, it is not a L series lens, but not everyone has a need or desire to spend that much on optics for the occasional photograph. And, you don't need to spend a fortune to get great shots.

I have purchased a few refurbished products from Canon and they look and perform like new. I cannot tell the difference.
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You may very well get some nice shots of wild life. You may also take a 1000 crummy photos too. Like any other hobby, photography has a learning curve to it. IMO the hardest things to photograph are, children, sports, and wildlife.

There are a lot of great camera and lens combos to be had $500-1000, that can take some amazing pictures in the right hands. However, to draw a fishing analogy, asking is this a good camera to a take a picture of a bald eagle, is a lot like someone asking I've never been fishing before but is the right rod and real to catch a tournament winning yellow fin tuna on?

As the poster above noted, I would also check out both Canon and Nikon's websites for their factory refurbished cameras. They come with a great warranty.

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Other threads have talked about the collective wisdom of the THT group. Thanks for sharing your wisdom. I never thought about renting but you are right, the eagles migrate and leave my area in March so if I want an eagle photo a rental would certainly be a good option.
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I got a Canon EOS Rebel for around 550 from Costco. I have had a blast taking eagle and other wildlife photos. Thanks for the help in choosing a camera.
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My rebel came from BJ's and i should have returned it when i discovered the manufacturer date was 3 years prior to purchase. While ive takwn some good shoots i give it a C+ at best. A real step down from my prior Canon

Same deal with my Canon point and shoot the Power Shot. . My camera bag was stolen by parking attendants in Miami and my Canon replacements left much to be desired. The power shot was cheaper pictures then my cell phone. How did that happen? Canon use to equal quality?!?
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LC,

Iíll try to keep this short but you need to be aware the electronics market in America is flooded with gray market cameras and other high dollar electronics.

Gray market is where equipment is made for other countries only and ends back in the US for sale usually at cheaper than normal pricing.

Problem 1:
If the equipment ever needs to be sent back to the manufacturer you can forget it as they wonít touch these types of equipment for all the tea in China.

Problem 2: Software compatibility issues.

Problem 3: Gray market items are not up to par compared to US standards.....

The serial numbers on the US cameras should start with US######.

Amazon and other companies allowing 3 party sales could
care less as long as the check clears upon initial sales.

Buyer Beware

Donít believe me?
Call Nikon or Canon Corp to verify what Iíve posted.

Been there, been through it.
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browse the photo section for jetski brian threads like this: The Eagle Has Landed!

p.m. him for bird shooting advice.

my advice, take lots and lots of photos.

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