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Old 02-05-2018, 06:34 AM
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I'm an ex-smoker and can't hardly stand to be around stinky cigarette smoke. Two buddies and I hit a few local redneck bars last night in Ocala National Forest. I was kinda shocked to encounter people smoking in the bars. Probably over half were smokers. I assumed that they were just ignoring the law but a little googling shows that it's allowed in bars in Florida as well as over a dozen other states.

I guess when I think about it, especially from a Libertarian point of view, It SHOULD be allowed. Let me re-phrase..... it should be up to the owner whether to allow or not. If they choose to allow, then I can choose not to patronize. It basically becomes a business decision.

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Old 02-05-2018, 06:37 AM
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From my understanding, you can allow smoking in the bar if your revenue comes from less than 10% food. Otherwise it is banned.

Me personally, I like being able to go places and not having to strip and shower in my garage when I get home.
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I use to be on the other side of the fence....but after I quit smoking, I didn't realize how bad the smell was and how it absorbs onto you...can't stand it now....dont even like to walk through the path of a smoking area.......
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I'm fine with it being left up to the owner.

That said I would never set foot in a bar that allows smoking.
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I'm a non smoker and it's illegal here in New Hampshire.

But I'm with the OP, it should be up to the owner.
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Find another bar. I personally don't mind it after a few minutes, and it normally correlates to cheap beer and more friendly crowd. Tiny tap, the hub, barefoot billies. From my understanding it is up to the owner... they dont want people smoking? they can sell food or post signs or kick people out... Its a private business, they can do what they like.
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In Fl, if its a bar w/o food they allow smoking. The law (as I understand it) is that if you allow minors into the establishment then it is non-smoking. The other caveat is that if the place has outside seating. If it is open air then it is up to the restaurant
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It's a private business, they can do what they like, in a state that allows them to. In most states they aren't allowed to.

At some point the betterment of the greater good comes into play, but I'd agree that in a bar they should simply display signs that say they allow smoking so I know not to even come in the door.
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It's allowed here if the smoking room is sealed off from the non smoking room. Some places will make the main room the smoking area and have a tiny room as a non smoking room.

IMO, it should be up to the owner not the government.
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I agree leave it up to the owners.

Spartanburg banned smoking in all establishments a few years back, and even went over the top and banned future cigar bars. Their justification was that folks don't have a choice where to work, and working in such an environment is unhealthy.
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Originally Posted by Double tyme View Post
I'm fine with it being left up to the owner.

That said I would never set foot in a bar that allows smoking.
Agree on both counts. If I need to drink at home to avoid the smoke, I will. At the same time I am not going to tell someone else what they can or can not do.
Old 02-05-2018, 07:22 AM
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In Virginia its banned in all bars and restaurants. You can have a separate are for smoking but I only know of one place that has done the separate room for smokers. I think it should actually be the owners decision.
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Not a fan of smokers but am a fan of personal liberty. It should be up to the owner to decide who he lets in, it should be up to the individual to decide if they want to use tobacco (very bad idea to use it) and it should be up to me if I want to go somewhere else (which I would).
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I was a bouncer in NJ when the ban officially went into effect here. That was a fun night. I remember a couple people did not put it out when midnight hit and that got ugly for them. As a bouncer, we would stand on boxes to look over the crowd. Smoke obviously rises. I would wake up the next morning coughing up a lung from second hand smoke.

I think we live in a different society now. I grew up in the 80's and 90's. I remember "smoking sections" of restaurants. My mother and father smoked like chimneys. Growing up I had tons of problems with bronchitis and other respiratory illnesses.

At the end of the day, if a state allows it, it should be up to management. They should have a sign on the door though.
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How did people survive all of those years when you could smoke in movie theaters,air planes etc. ?
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Kinda past the bar phase in my life, but the wife and I really enjoy eating outdoors. Drives us crazy when we are enjoying a nice meal on a patio or balcony or roof of a restaurant and smokers are seated next to you puffing it up.

I smoked some in college but hate the smell of it now. I have no problem with people smoking/vaping 'whenever/whatever' they want. I just wish people would be more considerate and stay downwind or pick up on when their mouth breathing smoke is affecting others and move or just stop for a few minutes.
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How did people survive all of those years when you could smoke in movie theaters,air planes etc. ?
Some didn't survive, they died.
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As a smoker, I am fine with non smoking bars. I think it should be up to the owner of the bar though.

I quit for a while and your right, the smell is bad and I agree it is a NASTY habit. One of those things I need to quit sooner rather than later for good but as a smoker there is something about a liquor drink or beer and a cigarette.

If I thought for one second I could just smoke when I drank, I would but after quitting and trying that route after I had "control" over it, I know better.


My wife and I quit together about 3 - 3.5 years ago. She is still going strong with no signs of reverting back. I had one fishing trip with the guys and it all went down hill from there.
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Don't go to that bar. You're welcome.
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Went to the blue gator in dunellen it was a great place except for the smoking

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