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My son needs a new ax. Hes 13 and has been in a youth sized Savannah for about 2 years. Hes really good and I think hes gonna play for a while. Suggestions please. Acoustic.
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Does he have a favorite size and type? Steel or nylon? Dreadnought, parlor, classical? Whichever brand you decide, remember they are tools, not toys. You can go to Guitar Center and play a variety of guitars. Look for sales. Sweetwater.com is another good place to buy, if you know what you want.
My Schilke trumpet is over 40 years old and I still play regularly. Good instruments are for a lifetime.
I also play the bass and have an old Carvin and Tobias.
You will get the Martin vs Taylor vs Gibson preferences.
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Buy a 12-string Martin, if you can find one.
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Martin D-18.
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Taylor 100 or Big Baby series would be my choice. Don't buy a inexpensive guitar that's hard to play and sounds like crap, it'll be a big turn off. Maybe something with electronics if he should want to plug into a amp in the future.
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I've played many acoustics and they all feel different, so I hope you're going to let him pick it out. My bro has an Ovation acoustic/electric that plays real nice, smaller neck which I prefer.
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This is like a "which pistol to buy" thread. Lots of good answers by people who recommend what they like for themselves, with an occasional input from a professional user and or teacher. In the end the best advice has already been given. You and your son need to go to a guitar store and have him try a bunch of options. When finds the one that fits his frame, ear and eye then you have a winner. Anything else runs the risk of picking a guitar that he won't love.
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Originally Posted by camnbo View Post
My son needs a new ax. Hes 13 and has been in a youth sized Savannah for about 2 years. Hes really good and I think hes gonna play for a while. Suggestions please. Acoustic.
Any idea on budget?
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As SeaCat stated we need to know his playing style/music he likes playing, and also what your budget is. I don't know why a 12 string was recommended, they are for a specific sound and not an everyday player. Taylor Big Baby is basically a dressed up toy guitar, the 100 is decent for the price. I am partial to Martin personally but stay away from the X series they have cheap plastic bracing. Taylor and Larrivee make nice guitars as well depending on the sound he's looking for. Gibson and Guild have some nice big body dreadnought models if that what he's into. If you're wanting to get him something nice that he can play for decades to come I would personally look within those brands. They have been around a long time and there is a reason for that. Steer clear of epiphone, fender, and Ibanez. They make some good electrics but the sound is not there in the acoustics.
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I enjoy going to Guitar Center or other Music Stores where you can pick up the guitars and play them. I enjoyed a couple of different Yamaha guitars in my budget years. I found a Martin for under 1000 acoustic-electric that I really like. In today's world I see good guitarists playing Taylors.
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What style/genre music he's into? (and budget?) plays a BIG role in choosing a guitar.
Once you've figured that out... You're more than halfway there.
www.acousticguitarforum.com

I've been playing for 45+ years, and teaching for 25.
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First off, I would NOT buy a 12 string. While they sound nice, I think it should be something he should get later on in life when he is much more comfortable...not to mention they are a PITA to tune.

For the money and size I think a Taylor GS mini is hard to beat. They have a cult following, they are smaller in size which will fit him perfectly and they can be set up for any playing style. I wish I had bought a GS mini when I started playing 3 years ago....I have one now, but it was not my first guitar. Later on in life it makes a wonderful travel and camping guitar which is what I use mine for.

Make sure you have a pro set it up (NOT guitar center if you can help it) so it is the most comfortable that it can be for him to play.
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Originally Posted by camnbo View Post
My son needs a new ax. Hes 13 and has been in a youth sized Savannah for about 2 years. Hes really good and I think hes gonna play for a while. Suggestions please. Acoustic.

Go to Guitar Center or Sam Ash or similar and let him graze.

Best to let him try several before picking what fits him, what sound suits him, etc. Can't really pick well by long distance, without being very, very familiar with the exact target model he might want. Even then, two different iterations of the same make/model/year/etc. can feel/play/sound different.

Letting him pick also increases his intellectual investment in whatever he chooses.

There are iconic brands, but there are also "price point" brands and even "price point" model lines offered by various brands. Well known acoustic (or acoustic-electric) in no particular order: Yamaha, Ovation, Taylor, Martin, Takemina, Fender, Gibson... probably several dozen others I've forgotten.

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Apologize for the derail, but while I have the expert's eyes... My 7-year-old is starting guitar lessons in January and we are buying him his first for Christmas. Any recommendations? I'm assuming he'll be starting classical style and need a 1/2 size with nylon strings?

OP... can't go wrong with a Martin or Taylor. If you can swing it, do your son a favor. They are works of art and hold their value. I also like Ovation (only because they were originally built in my hometown).
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I am a big fan of takamine and everyone who picks mine up loves it. They have a great fit and finish and you get a lot for the money. Mine has a nice low action that makes it easy to play and a rich full sound.
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Originally Posted by The Whale View Post
Apologize for the derail, but while I have the expert's eyes... My 7-year-old is starting guitar lessons in January and we are buying him his first for Christmas. Any recommendations? I'm assuming he'll be starting classical style and need a 1/2 size with nylon strings?

OP... can't go wrong with a Martin or Taylor. If you can swing it, do your son a favor. They are works of art and hold their value. I also like Ovation (only because they were originally built in my hometown).
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musi...ars/index.html

C-series or 1/2 or 3/4 School series.
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Originally Posted by tommyjones View Post
I am a big fan of takamine and everyone who picks mine up loves it. They have a great fit and finish and you get a lot for the money. Mine has a nice low action that makes it easy to play and a rich full sound.
I'll second the Takamine recommendation. I have had several Taylors, even one custom built. My favorite guitar is a Takamine dreadnought that I bought second hand for a steal and the Taylors were sent on down the road. That said, it is a very subjective topic that few people will agree on, so good luck!

One important thing to consider (someone mentioned Guitar Center), is the setup of the guitar. Many are not good right out of the box. And GC is especially suspect due to them basically being a petting zoo for guitars. I appreciate the ability to pick any guitar and try it out off the wall, but these guitars require maintenance that GC doesn't give. So, whatever you purchase, take the time to find a competent luthier and have a setup done. It makes playing so much easier and more enjoyable. One perk of purchasing from a smaller shop is they will likely have someone on staff to do this and include it in the purchase.
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Go to Guitar Centerr and let him play with every Martin or Taylor that is in the budget. Takamine are good guitars as well. Set a budget, let him play every guitar in the building under that, and pick one.
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Originally Posted by The Whale View Post
Apologize for the derail, but while I have the expert's eyes... My 7-year-old is starting guitar lessons in January and we are buying him his first for Christmas. Any recommendations? I'm assuming he'll be starting classical style and need a 1/2 size with nylon strings?

OP... can't go wrong with a Martin or Taylor. If you can swing it, do your son a favor. They are works of art and hold their value. I also like Ovation (only because they were originally built in my hometown).
7 is very young. I would pose this question to his future instructor. He can make that evaluation better than anyone on the internet.
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Since no budget is listed, I'll just say don't spend more than you're willing to lose. Not that he's going to lose it, but he's 13. This thing is going to spend some time in a college dorm room, camping trips, etc... It's going to get banged and beat up. If it were me I'd probably look at a used Martin or a new Seagull.

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