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Old 12-04-2017, 06:56 AM
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While I recommend everybody periodically check your on line bank statements I can't express this enough during the holidays season.

These SCUMBAGS work over time during the holidays and are using every tactic and device they can get their hands on to steal hard working folk's money every chance they get.

When you get gas, check the card slide portal for skimmers.
Check ANY card slide portal regardless where it is.

If you have one of the old chip cards request a new safety featured card and carry it in a theft protective wallet or card case.
This won't stop on line thieves from stealing the number but will help with local theft prevention.


Some SCUMBAG got ahold of my wife's number and apparently made a new card, then went on a shopping spree at Wal-Mart in another city.

One other thing, there appears to be a group of SCUMBAGS calling people from
800-369-4887 claiming to be card services fraud dept.

If you have concerns about your account(s), cards or posted purchases,
Call the number on the "Back" of your bank issued card, not some number some Scumbag left on your voice mail or texted you.
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
While I recommend everybody periodically check your on line bank statements I can't express this enough during the holidays season.

These SCUMBAGS work over time during the holidays and are using every tactic and device they can get their hands on to steal hard working folk's money every chance they get.

When you get gas, check the card slide portal for skimmers.
Check ANY card slide portal regardless where it is.

If you have one of the old chip cards request a new safety featured card and carry it in a theft protective wallet or card case.
This won't stop on line thieves from stealing the number but will help with local theft prevention.


Some SCUMBAG got ahold of my wife's number and apparently made a new card, then went on a shopping spree at Wal-Mart in another city.

One other thing, there appears to be a group of SCUMBAGS calling people from
800-369-4887 claiming to be card services fraud dept.

If you have concerns about your account(s), cards or posted purchases,
Call the number on the "Back" of your bank issued card, not some number some Scumbag left on your voice mail or texted you.
What does a “reader” look like, how obvious is it, I check hor the safety tape..
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If this were to happen and the thief spends less than my wife (which wouldn't be hard), I may be tempted to leave things as-is
Old 12-04-2017, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gumpire View Post
What does a “reader” look like, how obvious is it, I check hor the safety tape..
Readers can look very high quality reproductions, you need to pull on them to see if they come lose. If you have doubts, pay inside with the clerk.
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Chalk one up for the good guys.

They caught these SCUMBAGS thanks to a local resident.

http://www.bradenton.com/news/local/...188591654.html
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
Chalk one up for the good guys.

They caught these SCUMBAGS thanks to a local resident.

http://www.bradenton.com/news/local/...188591654.html
Hope those pendejos get real prison and no KY.

Just an FYI . . . I've had my card defrauded 3 times in the last 14 months. Each time my bank (5th Third) was on top of it within minutes, contacted me about the transactions, and made me whole on my account.
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Skimmer Scanner app for android. Will detect at gas pumps, ATM, etc.

Haven't seen one for IPhone though.
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Originally Posted by gumpire View Post
What does a “reader” look like, how obvious is it, I check hor the safety tape..
Just look on Google images and you'll see how effectively they can camouflage them. It used to be you could find them for sale on eBay but I don't see them there any more.

Best strategy is to mostly stick to machines you know where you'll notice if something changes. That and always grab the card slot and pull on it to see if it's loose.
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
While I recommend everybody periodically check your on line bank statements I can't express this enough during the holidays season.

These SCUMBAGS work over time during the holidays and are using every tactic and device they can get their hands on to steal hard working folk's money every chance they get.

When you get gas, check the card slide portal for skimmers.
Check ANY card slide portal regardless where it is.

If you have one of the old chip cards request a new safety featured card and carry it in a theft protective wallet or card case.
This won't stop on line thieves from stealing the number but will help with local theft prevention.


Some SCUMBAG got ahold of my wife's number and apparently made a new card, then went on a shopping spree at Wal-Mart in another city.

One other thing, there appears to be a group of SCUMBAGS calling people from
800-369-4887 claiming to be card services fraud dept.

If you have concerns about your account(s), cards or posted purchases,
Call the number on the "Back" of your bank issued card, not some number some Scumbag left on your voice mail or texted you.

This is a good reason why people should cancel their debit card and should use a credit card instead. Sure they can hack that the credit card but at that point they are stealing money from the credit card company and not out of your personal checking account. If you have a debit card and also overdraft protection from your checking to your saving then you even have more of an issue.
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It's easy to avoid skimmers at gas pumps. Go inside and pay. Takes a few more minutes, but nothing to worry about.
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Originally Posted by DEBTICATED View Post
It's easy to avoid skimmers at gas pumps. Go inside and pay. Takes a few more minutes, but nothing to worry about.
Actually I would say that's not foolproof either. In at least a few of the well publicized hacks, people installed fake readers at in store POS terminals. Those weren't skimmers, they just replaced the whole thing and had some extra components inside the box.

With a gas station, you are only as secure as the guy watching the till on the overnight shift who started last week, which isn't very. I think I trust the machine more than the people I see working in gas stations.

Retail terminals is a big business and people come and go from it like any other. There's plenty of inside info floating around and all it takes is one scumbag to have some...

There really is no answer. Sooner or later we all get got. The solution is to watch balances, have text and email notifications for as many transactions as the card company supports, and hope you can stop anything before it gets out of hand.
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
This is a good reason why people should cancel their debit card and should use a credit card instead. Sure they can hack that the credit card but at that point they are stealing money from the credit card company and not out of your personal checking account. If you have a debit card and also overdraft protection from your checking to your saving then you even have more of an issue.
Exactly. Never use a debit card, only a credit card. I'm amazed to see people in this day still using debit cards.
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About a month ago I bought a $250 flower arrangement in Indiana, joined a $108 furniture club in California, and then ordered $8,100 for a couch and two chairs. Thank goodness US Bank was right on top of it and reversed one charge and froze the other two. I can't comprehend debit cards.

Can't hack cash. If it ain't online or a hotel where I have to use a card, cash is so much easier.
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post
About a month ago I bought a $250 flower arrangement in Indiana, joined a $108 furniture club in California, and then ordered $8,100 for a couch and two chairs. Thank goodness US Bank was right on top of it and reversed one charge and froze the other two. I can't comprehend debit cards.

Can't hack cash. If it ain't online or a hotel where I have to use a card, cash is so much easier.
But who wants to keep large amounts of cash on them?
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I pay for everything in Bitcoin. Never a problem.
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Originally Posted by RyanL11 View Post
But who wants to keep large amounts of cash on them?
Forget cash just dump the debit cards which if stolen give the perp access to your money. Use a credit card. If the perp steals the number then he is stealing from the bank and not you. You can also get award points for using their money.
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
This is a good reason why people should cancel their debit card and should use a credit card instead. Sure they can hack that the credit card but at that point they are stealing money from the credit card company and not out of your personal checking account. If you have a debit card and also overdraft protection from your checking to your saving then you even have more of an issue.

I totally agree, which is what I have been trying to tell my stubborn headed wife like forever.

Those Dbags had keys which fit the pump locks so nobody could tell if they had been tampered with.
Those pumps even had the security sticker on them which was apparently fake as well.

Only good thief is a dead thief.
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Originally Posted by lazyboi1212 View Post
I pay for everything in Bitcoin. Never a problem.
"never"

https://storeofvalue.github.io/posts...r-august-24th/

"The hacker was able to break into Enigma’s website, Slack group, and mailing list and sent fraudulent messages to the project’s community asking for money. This allowed the hacker to gather almost 1,500 Ether (about $500,000). This is despite a previous warning by Enigma that it would not collect money in this way until its ICO in September."

No matter the form of fiat money, thieves will always go after other people's property. The only way to avoid it, is to return to barter. And not many are going to be thrilled at the prospect of trading 18 chickens for a full tank of diesel.
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Originally Posted by RyanL11 View Post
But who wants to keep large amounts of cash on them?
Why not? Never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
Forget cash just dump the debit cards which if stolen give the perp access to your money. Use a credit card. If the perp steals the number then he is stealing from the bank and not you. You can also get award points for using their money.
That's what I do. No need to risk a debit card or carrying large amounts of cash.

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