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Old 10-18-2017, 05:24 AM
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Default Thoughts about a, Mercedes GLE 450 AMG coupe

Just curious, i am trading my Mercedes 2014 ML 350 in for it.


The one I am buying is a 2016 Mercedes GLE 450 AMG coupe

Any thoughts?
Old 10-18-2017, 05:39 AM
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For me personally I'm not a fan of couple crossovers with the somewhat exaggerated sloped roofline and went with a Macan. I also needed dependability in a daily driver for my wife who is on the road a lot. I have not sat in the backseat of that particular model but found the similar crossover in 2017 to have a tight roofline if you carry rear seat passengers much.

I love my AMG. Nice interior, good performance, etc but I think the Porsche will be more dependable in the long run if that matters. I assume the 2016 is a demo or is it a CPO?
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I like the ml/gle platform, at least for my wife to drive. Hate the looks of the coupe.
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Originally Posted by BACKTOTHESEA View Post
I assume the 2016 is a demo or is it a CPO?
No, it is used. 18k miles. I never buy new cars because they drop down about 20% when you pull out of the dealer.

So I always only lease new cars, and I buy used cars with only low miles.

The 2014 Ml350 that I have, I only had it for about 8mos.

My Mercedes SL 550 was only 1.5yrs old when I bought it, and the older owner bought it for $127k. So I bought it for $85k with 5k miles
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Originally Posted by blackfinmike View Post
No, it is used. 18k miles. I never buy new cars because they drop down about 20% when you pull out of the dealer.

So I always only lease new cars, and I buy used cars with only low miles.

The 2014 Ml350 that I have, I only had it for about 8mos.

My Mercedes SL 550 was only 1.5yrs old when I bought it, and the older owner bought it for $127k. So I bought it for $85k with 5k miles
I was asking more to understand warranty options. Our Macan was a "new" demo and they knocked 15% off and converted it to a CPO giving us 5 years and 100k miles as a further inducement.
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Originally Posted by BACKTOTHESEA View Post
I was asking more to understand warranty options. Our Macan was a "new" demo and they knocked 15% off and converted it to a CPO giving us 5 years and 100k miles as a further inducement.
Sorry, yes it is certified
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We bought my wife a 2017 GLE43 SUV earlier this year, which I think is pretty much the same as the GLE450 from 2016, just renumbered to match the AMG scheme. She loves it, plenty of power, sounds great. We tow with ours too and it does surprisingly well.
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I don't understand the appeal of that model at all. Same goes for BMW X4/X6. Just looks like a jacked up car with neither the great driving dynamics of a car and none of the utility of an SUV.
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Originally Posted by Tuna Colada View Post
I don't understand the appeal of that model at all. Same goes for BMW X4/X6. Just looks like a jacked up car with neither the great driving dynamics of a car and none of the utility of an SUV.
ditto, not a fan of crossovers; we went with a 2018 MB GLS63 AMG for my wife.
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Not a huge fan but just walked by one yesterday and it looked pretty cool.

Imagine massive depr and a huge POS overall when it comes to repairs and resale but still nice.

What mitigates some of that, when I bought my last new Benz I was able to buy an extended warranty for this pretty long period (time and miles) and it stayed with the car so the person I sold it to also had it, which def helped when selling. It cost me $8k on a $146 sticker.

Good luck
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Will you be trading in the ML? Curious because I'm potentially looking for an ML350.

Thanks.
Old 10-19-2017, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by paulyjsob View Post
Will you be trading in the ML? Curious because I'm potentially looking for an ML350.

Thanks.
Yes sir
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One of the worst MB they've made .....
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Originally Posted by LongIslandFisherman View Post
One of the worst MB they've made .....
Well that's helpful...


worst as in worst looking? Subjective. They are not my favorite looking merc but your dodge is even uglier

worst performance? worst reliability? ?
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Originally Posted by LongIslandFisherman View Post
One of the worst MB they've made .....

To each his own. I happen to really like the ML's. I do almost all my own maintenance and keep a spreadsheet on all my vehicle expenses.


I bought a 99 ML320 brand new and drove it for 14 years and 306,000 miles. Sold it for $3000. My maintenance costs were $17,177 over 14 years, so $1227 per year. That's for EVERYTHING except gasoline. I'd venture to say that is less than average for cars in its class.


I replaced the '99 four years ago with a used 2010 ML350.


We like it so much, when my wife needed a new(er) vehicle two years ago, we got her a 2012 ML350.


Maintenance on the 2010 and 2012 are following the pattern of the 1999.


I am currently in the market for a 2014 ML350 to replace my 2010.
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Originally Posted by sunedog View Post
To each his own. I happen to really like the ML's. I do almost all my own maintenance and keep a spreadsheet on all my vehicle expenses.


I bought a 99 ML320 brand new and drove it for 14 years and 306,000 miles. Sold it for $3000. My maintenance costs were $17,177 over 14 years, so $1227 per year. That's for EVERYTHING except gasoline. I'd venture to say that is less than average for cars in its class.


I replaced the '99 four years ago with a used 2010 ML350.


We like it so much, when my wife needed a new(er) vehicle two years ago, we got her a 2012 ML350.


Maintenance on the 2010 and 2012 are following the pattern of the 1999.


I am currently in the market for a 2014 ML350 to replace my 2010.
So you paid ~$51k- $3k (sales price), for your Mercedes. Why not look at a Lexus, or something more reliable. We owned a 1999 Lexus RX300 from 2000-2016 and my rough out of pocket (minus gas) was ~$3100 (150k miles). This includes the timing belt replacement, oil changes, a couple O2 sensors, and struts. The thing was bulletproof. Passed it on to my cousin who is continuing to drive it with no issue.

The reason I have an issue with Mercedes is there cost of ownership if you choose to keep them over 50k miles. If you trade them in before that, then you're in good shape, IMO. I'm in the insurance industry (total loss) and whenever I get an older Mercedes, I dread talking to the customer because they think their car is worth gold. Generally it's because of the amount of money they've had to put into it over the years.
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Originally Posted by sunedog View Post
My maintenance costs were $17,177 over 14 years, so $1227 per year.
That actually sounds brutal, especially if, like you said, you're doing it yourself. At least that saves a bunch and you know it's being done right,,,no upselling unnecessary "repairs" or maintenance either.

Imagine anyone else who can't. You could probably triple that amount if the dealer did it.

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Perfect for throwing a cooler full of bait in...and some bloody carcasses after a day of fishing.
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Originally Posted by Shoreacresgrown View Post
So you paid ~$51k- $3k (sales price), for your Mercedes.

Nowhere near that for any of them. The 1999 was $34,240 out the door. That was comparable to a similarly equipped new Lexus or Tahoe.


Bought the 2010 for $30,999 when it was 2.4 years old and the 2012 for $32,300 when it was 3.4 years old. Both were like new cars when I got them.


Why not look at a Lexus, or something more reliable.
The car my wife drove for 7 years before the one she has now was a '99 Lexus RX300. The ergonomics of the Japanese vehicles are hard to beat. But the engineering and serviceability of the Mercedes wins by a long shot in my experience. The Lexus ate ignition coils for breakfast at close to $100 per part. The rear 3 coils on the transverse mounted engine were not accessible without removing the throttle body. It developed a rear oil seal leak requiring the transmission and front drive axles to be removed for access. That repair cost close to $1600. The blend door motor failed requiring the entire dash to be removed for repair ($677). Timing belt replacement cost me $1087.


We owned a 1999 Lexus RX300 from 2000-2016 and my rough out of pocket (minus gas) was ~$3100 (150k miles). This includes the timing belt replacement, oil changes, a couple O2 sensors, and struts. The thing was bulletproof.
So if your timing belt repair cost was anywhere near mine, you spent about $2000 on other maintenance and repair costs for 150K miles? Either you are misrembering all of your costs or you did very, very well. I keep a spreadsheet of all my maintenance and repair costs so it is easy for me to review all the data.
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Originally Posted by Esuomm1 View Post
That actually sounds brutal, especially if, like you said, you're doing it yourself. At least that saves a bunch and you know it's being done right,,,no upselling unnecessary "repairs" or maintenance either.

Imagine anyone else who can't. You could probably triple that amount if the dealer did it.
I concur with you on the dealer charges. That's why I learned to maintain them myself. There is a tremendous user community of Mercedes enthusiasts that have already documented about every conceivable repair and they will guide you through anything you can't figure out on your own.

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