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Old 09-27-2017, 08:14 AM
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15 States where welfare pays WAY more then Minumum wage

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Term limit welfare...it's not a lifestyle. This makes me sick.

Nor should you be allowed to reproduce while on it.
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While on the government dole: (the taxpayers dime)

1. Mandatory drug testing



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Death notice in the local paper the other day. Lady was 93 or so.

She was THE first to move into the housing project where she lived for 65 YEARS - 65, folks - 65.

It's not just a way of life for most - it's a MENTALITY.

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Death notice in the local paper the other day. Lady was 93 or so.

She was THE first to move into the housing project where she lived for 65 YEARS - 65, folks - 65.

It's not just a way of life for most - it's a MENTALITY.

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Sad to say, it IS what they know.
Some/many do not see an issue with it while others think it is owed to them.
I'm going to get mine while the gettin's good, mindset.
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I am a firm believe that taxpayers should be able to pick up a few able bodied, non-working welfare recipients to help out with yard work, household chores, etc. a few times a year.
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I am a firm believe that taxpayers should be able to pick up a few able bodied, non-working welfare recipients to help out with yard work, household chores, etc. a few times a year.
I've often wondered why we ever have any litter on the side of the street, overgrown public property, trashy parks etc. when it seems we are paying a large workforce fully capable of menial tasks to do nothing.
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I've often wondered why we ever have any litter on the side of the street, overgrown public property, trashy parks etc. when it seems we are paying a large workforce fully capable of menial tasks to do nothing.
Even more baffling is why we pay landscape contractors to cut the grass at housing projects. We should be handing out scissors & sling blades. On second thought, probably just scissors.
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They would hurt themselves then be on workman's comp that the tax payer would then have to pay for again.

....wait, did I just type, "workman's' comp".???
when will this become "workperson' or "workhuman's" comp ?.....

... I'm so offended .... must make sign .... must gather like minded humans .... must find workers comp office ... must stage a protest .... must change this injustice .....


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It is in part what has lead to the demise of the family. I know several poeple (electricians, firemen and the like) that will not marry their baby moma's because they moma's would have to get off welfare/foodstamps and their children would come off CHIPs (State payed for health and dental) and get the poor plan offered by the city they work for.

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When I saw the headline, I knew my state would be on the list...we are in dire financial straights

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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
I am a firm believe that taxpayers should be able to pick up a few able bodied, non-working welfare recipients to help out with yard work, household chores, etc. a few times a year.
I love the concept , but if we are being truthful would you be comfortable with the welfare sucking type on your property and worse yet in your home ?? I for one would not be . but there is plenty of trash on the roadways , and grass to be cut in public places
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I love the concept , but if we are being truthful would you be comfortable with the welfare sucking type on your property and worse yet in your home ?? I for one would not be . but there is plenty of trash on the roadways , and grass to be cut in public places
No, but I have some farm/hunting land that can always use a few days worth of work.

Alternately we could transport them to the houses to do work in windowless panel vans, and confiscate their electronics so as to avoid them tracking the location.
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Without so much as a look see, NJ has to be on that list, with section 8 housing, food stamps, job training and child support/daycare, they live well.
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While on the government dole: (the taxpayers dime)

1. Mandatory drug testing



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This is a fantastic way to take a system which bleeds money (welfare) and ensure it wastes even MORE money with ineffective drug testing. It's been proven over and over that the testing companies are the only ones who benefit from such policies.
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I new my state would be on the list, "Vermont". I am in the rental business, I deal with lots of section 8. I see first hand how these people milk the system and make a killing. Free housing, food, electric, car allowance, the list goes on. Good friend of mine owns a good size apple orchard. He has to bring in Jamaicans every year to pick his apples. He is required to post his job openings before he brings in the Jamaicans. He said this year he did not even get one applicant from Vermont.
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This is a fantastic way to take a system which bleeds money (welfare) and ensure it wastes even MORE money with ineffective drug testing. It's been proven over and over that the testing companies are the only ones who benefit from such policies.
Random, on the spot testing can cut back on a lot of the fraud. I’m not for it across the board, but beyond a certain period of time on welfare, every aspect of the recipients lifestyle that costs money, or prevents/avoids earning $, should be up for scrutiny and restrictions.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Random, on the spot testing can cut back on a lot of the fraud. I’m not for it across the board, but beyond a certain period of time on welfare, every aspect of the recipients lifestyle that costs money, or prevents/avoids earning $, should be up for scrutiny and restrictions.
I'd prefer to not create or expand a government agency to handle this. Zero chance it'll save money. Set lifetime limits and don't worry about it IMO.
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Back in 1976 during the failed campaign of Reagan to run as the Republican Nominee I ran across the concept of the left desiring to create a permanent underclass that would vote Democrat. To answer the question, "is this right,"? no it isn't but the left has been energetic and successful in creating these welfare situations.
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Originally Posted by FishHarder View Post
15 States where welfare pays WAY more then Minumum wage

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/s...mum-wage.html/
Wow, stop the bus. While I can never imagine going on welfare, never mind unemployment, they never say how they come up with those numbers. At all.

The CATO report states:
We have therefore reexamined the issue
in light of current benefits. In particular, this
study seeks to determine the approximate level
of benefits that a typical welfare family, consisting
of a single mother with two children, might
receive, and to compare those benefits with the
wages that a recipient would need to earn in order
to take home an equivalent income.

Then the article goes on: But we took the results of this report a bit further to see which states have the biggest gap between the hourly minimum wage equivalent welfare recipients get and the state-mandated amount.

Well, I'm pretty sure a single mother with two children can't survive on minimum wage as it is in any way shape or form.

So great, what did they even prove? That a single mother with two children is actually well taken care of by the state?
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