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My 12 yr old son just started 7th grade and he is taking Algebra 1 which usually he would take on 9th grade, so for 1 period a couple of times a week he joints nine graders for Algebra class. This all started when his last year (6th grade) Math teacher recommended for him to take a virtual class of Pre Algebra this past summer during the break which he did and completed/ passed tests in about 8 weeks. He's in this advanced program at school that is about robotics and coding so he's a smart kid. Have any of you have gone thru this? I'm the first one to push and support him so he can live to all his potential but at the same time I don't want to push too much. What do you guys think? Do you think this will benefit him on the long run? Any teachers out there?
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Originally Posted by waheero71 View Post
My 12 yr old son just started 7th grade and he is taking Algebra 1 which usually he would take on 9th grade, so for 1 period a couple of times a week he joints nine graders for Algebra class. This all started when his last year (6th grade) Math teacher recommended for him to take a virtual class of Pre Algebra this past summer during the break which he did and completed/ passed tests in about 8 weeks. He's in this advanced program at school that is about robotics and coding so he's a smart kid. Have any of you have gone thru this? I'm the first one to push and support him so he can live to all his potential but at the same time I don't want to push too much. What do you guys think? Do you think this will benefit him on the long run? Any teachers out there?

Same thing happened with my son and there is a downside later in high school. When PSAT's and SATs come around your son will likely to taking AP Calculus and it will have been years since he looked at any geometry, trig, or algebra.

Something to think about.
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Is there a strong reason to speed up the process?

If not, have him take algebra in 9th.
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We've been in a similar boat with both of ours (now 9th and 11th grade)...

We let them take the math, but without pressure. In our school system they could retake whatever they had in middle school when they got to high school. So we looked at it as a good chance to try it out without penalty for retake - it's worked out well for both of them. Daughter retook algebra freshman year and had the base for it to do well. Son is moving ahead with Algebra 2 as a freshman, and gets it.

Win-win.
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Originally Posted by waheero71 View Post
My 12 yr old son just started 7th grade and he is taking Algebra 1 which usually he would take on 9th grade, so for 1 period a couple of times a week he joints nine graders for Algebra class. This all started when his last year (6th grade) Math teacher recommended for him to take a virtual class of Pre Algebra this past summer during the break which he did and completed/ passed tests in about 8 weeks. He's in this advanced program at school that is about robotics and coding so he's a smart kid. Have any of you have gone thru this? I'm the first one to push and support him so he can live to all his potential but at the same time I don't want to push too much. What do you guys think? Do you think this will benefit him on the long run? Any teachers out there?
Doing the same thing with my daughter right now. She's in 7th and doing Algebra 1. I don't see how it could hurt.
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One of my boys took it in 7th, one 8th and one in 9th. If he's up for it, no harm. The one that took it in 7th had 35 act, didn't seem to forget any math... Doing well, senior in chem e and car.

Remembered I took it in 7th. Started the computer club in HS and was a nerd. Maybe he should wait...
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I never understood math algebra in school until I went to work and commissions were involved I got real smart real quick
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He will get board if not challenged. Absolutely let him do the higher level unless he is unhappy or frustrated.

My 4th grader is learning pre-algebra right now. If they get the concepts it is never too young.
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Originally Posted by ChannelTwo View Post
He will get board if not challenged. Absolutely let him do the higher level unless he is unhappy or frustrated.

My 4th grader is learning pre-algebra right now. If they get the concepts it is never too young.
^^^Absolutely this^^^

In second grade I tested at a 140 IQ. I was bored as F*** all through school. Never, from 1st thru 12th grade did I take a book home. Never needed to!! All homework was complete before the school day ended.

It made me hate school, so I never got the advanced education I should have pursued. I've still done well, but it sure does make it a bitch when you're interviewing and have to convince someone that you know more than the average recent grad with a Masters or PhD.
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When my son was in the 8th grade had to go to HS to take Algebra II, in the beginning I thought it was going to be rough for him, not from an academic standpoint but adjusting to HS even for 1 period. It turned out to be a great thing, he fit right into HS when he became a freshman and did not have the adjustment period some freshman have. He took algebra in 6th and his teacher recommended that he take Geometry during summer after 6th grade. I felt that he needed his summer recess more than bombarding him with Geometry. I think I made the right decision, he's at MIT now as a freshman and just CLEP'ed Multivarable Calculus and first year Chem. Congrats to you and your son, nurture him, challenge him but keep a watchful eye make sure he does not lose out on his childhood.
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He's probably behind most Asians as it is so keep him in it.

Let him take as much math as early as possible.
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I'm currently a senior in high school and I took algebra 1 in 7th grade. I'm so glad I did it, because it allowed me to knock out a lot of my college math classes. I took AP calc BC last year and got a 5 on the exam, so now I'm taking calc3 and differential equations through NC state.

If your son decides to go into any hard science career having an advanced math background in middle and high school will serve him well. If he takes it in 9th grade he won't even take calc in high school, and you really need to take that to get into most good STEM programs.
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Don't push him and see how he does. If he's happy with it, great for him.
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Originally Posted by BostonWhalerSeaHunt View Post
I'm currently a senior in high school and I took algebra 1 in 7th grade. I'm so glad I did it, because it allowed me to knock out a lot of my college math classes. I took AP calc BC last year and got a 5 on the exam, so now I'm taking calc3 and differential equations through NC state.

If your son decides to go into any hard science career having an advanced math background in middle and high school will serve him well. If he takes it in 9th grade he won't even take calc in high school, and you really need to take that to get into most good STEM programs.

Spot on
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Guys great response, thanks for all the encouragement and complements, I think that I'm doing the right thing, he is just starting the school year so I'm helping him as much as I can, just needed to remember all this in that I went to school long time ago but I was pretty good on Algebra, Geometry and Trigonometry. I was just wondering how common my situation was. I will keep carefully pushing. Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by z3axv View Post
When my son was in the 8th grade had to go to HS to take Algebra II, in the beginning I thought it was going to be rough for him, not from an academic standpoint but adjusting to HS even for 1 period. It turned out to be a great thing, he fit right into HS when he became a freshman and did not have the adjustment period some freshman have. He took algebra in 6th and his teacher recommended that he take Geometry during summer after 6th grade. I felt that he needed his summer recess more than bombarding him with Geometry. I think I made the right decision, he's at MIT now as a freshman and just CLEP'ed Multivarable Calculus and first year Chem. Congrats to you and your son, nurture him, challenge him but keep a watchful eye make sure he does not lose out on his childhood.
Thanks for the complements, actually every time somebody ask my son what college he would like to go without missing a bit he answers MIT, hopefully he can make it. Thanks again and good luck to your son.
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Originally Posted by BostonWhalerSeaHunt View Post
I'm currently a senior in high school and I took algebra 1 in 7th grade. I'm so glad I did it, because it allowed me to knock out a lot of my college math classes. I took AP calc BC last year and got a 5 on the exam, so now I'm taking calc3 and differential equations through NC state.

If your son decides to go into any hard science career having an advanced math background in middle and high school will serve him well. If he takes it in 9th grade he won't even take calc in high school, and you really need to take that to get into most good STEM programs.
I'm showing these posts to my son tomorrow, this will encourage him and will help him understand how important taking this step now will help him on the long run. Thanks for your comment.
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Originally Posted by Qb1rdman View Post
Same thing happened with my son and there is a downside later in high school. When PSAT's and SATs come around your son will likely to taking AP Calculus and it will have been years since he looked at any geometry, trig, or algebra.

Something to think about.
if he has parents as involved as this one (bothering to even ask this question on ANY internet forum much less following through is WAY more involved than 75% of the parents out there) then surely they can sign him up for a SAT/ACT prep course when it comes time to cut nuts and make the needed score

the perp course will get him right back in shape and focused on what the test will ask
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If he can do Algebra, you should press him to study Geometry in his spare time. Unless you think knowledge is a bad thing.

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