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Old 08-29-2017, 04:10 PM
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I'm gonna rant

Grand Daughter is starting high school. Next semester my Daughter said she will have to take a language. My Daughter is going to put her in French class.

I tried to reason with her, being that she is somewhat of an unreasonable person, about the fact that Spanish would make much more sense, thinking what language is more popular in this country.

Her reasoning is self centered, which is her MO. My Son In Laws niece gets straight A's in French and would be able to help her. Daughter is only thinking of herself.

I asked the simple question asking her what language on the phone you press 2 for (Spanish of course)? She ripped into me that she never took a language in school. I almost replied that that may be why she works in a car dealer office but I held my tongue.

All I am thinking if is my G Daughters future which I don't think I'm out of line on. Am I wrong here?
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Not out of line, but it is only HS. It is to get a basis in how foreign languages work. Usually 2 years of it. It isn't like she signed her up to be a French major in college or something. I'd let it play out. HS level Spanish or French is not going to significantly contribute to someone's life or overall quality of education.
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I took 3 years of French in high school. It's a language I'll never use, have never used. Unfortunately, Spanish is the language that's mostly used now through out the country. Unless they decide to learn Farsi, Spanish is the way to go.
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No one becomes fluent (or even close to fluent) by taking 2 years of a high school language class.
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French and spanish share a very close foundation. Either one will give her enough basics in both languages.

I'm canadian... i've only ever pressed two for french
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I'm going to have to disagree with you (OP).

Spanish may be more common as a second language, but that is exactly why it's a less valuable skill in the marketplace -- the market is saturated with spanish speakers.

One of my daughters has a knack for languages (for fun she taught herself basic spanish and korean over this summer). She has a very good paying internship lined up for the next two summers (she's still in college). She was specifically recruited for her french language skills, which are less common nowadays.
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Two years of HS French or Spanish ain't gonna affect her future one iota one way or the other.

Wife took French, I took Spanish in HS. Neither of us can carry on a conversation in either.

If she needs Spanish later she'll have to take a proper course, which she would need to do either way.
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Originally Posted by Walleye Guy View Post
I'm gonna rant

Grand Daughter is starting high school. Next semester my Daughter said she will have to take a language. My Daughter is going to put her in French class.

I tried to reason with her, being that she is somewhat of an unreasonable person, about the fact that Spanish would make much more sense, thinking what language is more popular in this country.

Her reasoning is self centered, which is her MO. My Son In Laws niece gets straight A's in French and would be able to help her. Daughter is only thinking of herself.

I asked the simple question asking her what language on the phone you press 2 for (Spanish of course)? She ripped into me that she never took a language in school. I almost replied that that may be why she works in a car dealer office but I held my tongue.

All I am thinking if is my G Daughters future which I don't think I'm out of line on. Am I wrong here?
Does your daughter ever have a problem ordering Chinese food?
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Well I never took a language but I'm old and it really wasn't popular when I was younger. I just went into Monster.com and searched for French, then Spanish in the Cleveland area where I live.

There are 3 pages for people that are fluent in French. There are 10 pages for Spanish speaking people and I don't live in an area that is dominant in Spanish like FLA for instance. Proving, at least to me, that there are more opportunities for Spanish speaking people than French.

I think the other reason I am so upset, is that the Daughter is SO self centered that she doesn't have to help my GD because of her husbands niece being fluent in French (let somebody else do the work).

She'll hang my GD out to dry just to make things easier on her. Now where are my BP pills I'm supposed to take....
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I learned more in 8 weeks in Mexico than I learned in 3 years of High School Spanish class.

Something about needing to know the language to eat or order a beer motivates you more than memorizing 20 words each week surrounded with people who speak your native language.

2 years of High School Spanish won't make much of a difference. You're over thinking this one.
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Originally Posted by SeaBoss21 View Post
I took 3 years of French in high school. It's a language I'll never use, have never used. Unfortunately, Spanish is the language that's mostly used now through out the country. Unless they decide to learn Farsi, Spanish is the way to go.
Exactly my history with French. Had three years of it but took 2 to pass French 2. Went to France and couldn't understand hardly a darn word.
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Je m'appelle Matt...comment appelles tu?

or something like that. I took French, but my last class I had to take at Clemson was French Lit...and, it was in English
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Originally Posted by sultany View Post
French and spanish share a very close foundation. Either one will give her enough basics in both languages.

I'm canadian... i've only ever pressed two for french
I made a call to Ottawa a few days ago and had to press 2 for English.
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I just want the best for my GD. At times she has had a rough life which I can't go into on here and she is such a good kid.

Father is not in her life although she wants him to be. Always says that her Dad doesn't want her around which just kills me to hear her say things like that. My Son In Law just loves her and has talked about adopting her but they think the real father won't agree to it.

Sorry for my rant but it felt kind of good.
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hau hau hau hau
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OP you should butt out. Many more important things in life than this. I took German and French in HS, Spanish in College, all to meet required minimums, never used any of it. Who gives a rat's behind what she takes? None of a grandparent's business, nor does it matter. Math and Science matter, AP classes matter, all none of a grandparent's business.
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A couple years of high school language won't make a difference. Unless she is really really trying, continues into college , and spends time abroad imersed she won't speak more than a few phrases.
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FRENCH EH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe shes moving to CANADA EH.
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It's high school language, who cares?

FWIW I took French in HS and ended up going to France twice for work. Never been to a Spanish speaking country, other than Miami.
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Stay out of it....

Your wadded up over what high school language...good grief

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