Notices

Kilz 2 Primer Terrible Product

Old 08-28-2017, 08:21 AM
  #1  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,486
Received 1,836 Likes on 846 Posts
Default Kilz 2 Primer Terrible Product

Went to repaint a room from a dark color to a light color and it was suggested to me that I should use Kilz before painting, otherwise I would be doing 3-5 coats of the new lighter color. I cannot speak for the original Kilz product but do not waste your time with the Kilz 2 it was absolutely the worst paint product I have ever used. Crazy thin and did not coat worth a damn! I had to put 3+ coats to cover. Extremely frustrated with it, project is done but I do not want anyone else to waste their time with this crap. Lesson learned Rant over
Old 08-28-2017, 08:34 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Southeast of the Holy City
Posts: 507
Received 100 Likes on 70 Posts
Default

I'm surprised. I've used Kilz2 (the water based one) for years with good results. Maybe I've never covered anything really dark.

Did you try the Zinsser product?
Old 08-28-2017, 08:37 AM
  #3  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 412
Received 158 Likes on 73 Posts
Default

Pro tip. Have the primer tinted to a shade close to the new color.
Old 08-28-2017, 08:53 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,167
Received 1,576 Likes on 461 Posts
Default

Total crap
Use Zinzer
Old 08-28-2017, 08:55 AM
  #5  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,486
Received 1,836 Likes on 846 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Wavehight View Post
Pro tip. Have the primer tinted to a shade close to the new color.
Possibly could have helped although I doubt much if any, the way it went on the wall it was like painting with water. Even it it was tinted I can't imagine it would have helped that much. Maybe I got a bad batch? I seriously can't describe how terrible it covered.
Old 08-28-2017, 09:01 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Suffolk, Va.
Posts: 17,856
Likes: 0
Received 2,231 Likes on 1,116 Posts
Default

I think you use the wrong Kilz product. I thought Kilz2 was more of a stain blocker And Kilz Hide All was designed to help with covering dark paints.
Old 08-28-2017, 09:19 AM
  #7  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Martin County Florida formerly Palm Beach County
Posts: 12,241
Received 2,841 Likes on 1,588 Posts
Default

You needed to use "hide-all", great product I've used many times for your exact application. Kilz2 is more of a stainblocker for water stains etc.
Old 08-28-2017, 09:26 AM
  #8  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,486
Received 1,836 Likes on 846 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
You needed to use "hide-all", great product I've used many times for your exact application. Kilz2 is more of a stainblocker for water stains etc.
It says on Kilz website that it is used to hide previous color for its intended usage. I guess if your trying to hide white it would probably work. Other than that not much good.

Just trying to save someone else the hassle & frustration that I experienced not the "I heard it was good product." crap.
Old 08-28-2017, 09:31 AM
  #9  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Martin County Florida formerly Palm Beach County
Posts: 12,241
Received 2,841 Likes on 1,588 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lurker25 View Post
It says on Kilz website that it is used to hide previous color for its intended usage. I guess if your trying to hide white it would probably work. Other than that not much good.

Just trying to save someone else the hassle & frustration that I experienced not the "I heard it was good product." crap.
I painted houses for 10 years, Im just telling you what I used.
Old 08-28-2017, 09:37 AM
  #10  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Fairhaven, MA
Posts: 10,077
Received 1,626 Likes on 985 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
I think you use the wrong Kilz product. I thought Kilz2 was more of a stain blocker And Kilz Hide All was designed to help with covering dark paints.
x2
Old 08-28-2017, 09:40 AM
  #11  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,486
Received 1,836 Likes on 846 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
I painted houses for 10 years, Im just telling you what I used.
I appreciate the input and I can't imagine you would have used such a product more than once. Did not mean to be a dick I am just unbelievably pissed off that such a small paint project turned into having to put down so many coats of paint due to such a terrible product.
Old 08-28-2017, 09:42 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Puerto Pensaco Mexico, just south of Rock Point
Posts: 11,530
Likes: 0
Received 266 Likes on 139 Posts
Default

I think a lot of people use benny Moore fresh start to change drastic color
Old 08-28-2017, 09:52 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
Squidd Vicious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Nowhere near Uranus
Posts: 6,696
Likes: 0
Received 358 Likes on 172 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lobstercatcher View Post
I think a lot of people use benny Moore fresh start to change drastic color
^^^This. If my top coat was a dark color I'd have them mix an ounce of black into it and shake it for me. Ben Moore Fresh Start is a great product.
Old 08-28-2017, 09:56 AM
  #14  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,486
Received 1,836 Likes on 846 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lobstercatcher View Post
I think a lot of people use benny Moore fresh start to change drastic color
Thank you this is more of what I was looking for. I will try Benny Moore for a future project. There is nowhere to go but up.
Old 08-28-2017, 10:08 AM
  #15  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 508
Received 320 Likes on 154 Posts
Default

i just buy the paint with the primer in it. just painted a room from a dark burgundy to a light nuetral color and two coats and shes done. no kilz at all.
Old 08-28-2017, 10:57 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Suffolk, Va.
Posts: 17,856
Likes: 0
Received 2,231 Likes on 1,116 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lurker25 View Post
I appreciate the input and I can't imagine you would have used such a product more than once. Did not mean to be a dick I am just unbelievably pissed off that such a small paint project turned into having to put down so many coats of paint due to such a terrible product.
I'll have to say I went on the Kilz site and it does say it can be used for covering dark paints. Their site does not do a good job explaining which product is best for different applications.
Old 08-28-2017, 01:18 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Alaska
Posts: 699
Received 362 Likes on 184 Posts
Default

I just had exact same experience with Kilz2, painting over dark blue, if it
wasn't for the mold control benefits of Kilz2 I would have used something else.
Old 08-28-2017, 01:27 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: S Dartmouth, MA
Posts: 2,150
Received 713 Likes on 434 Posts
Default

So for fun looking at the Kilz website, I don't see anywhere in the description it says "covers dark colors"? Only thing is "HELPS BLOCK LIGHT/MED STAINS"

Kilz2 Gray is recommended for UNDER dark colors?
Old 08-28-2017, 04:01 PM
  #19  
Admirals ClubCaptains Club Member Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Beaufort NC
Posts: 2,018
Received 293 Likes on 168 Posts
Default

I tried Kilz to cover up water stain on the ceiling. So far 3 coats have bled through. What do you recommend ?
Old 08-28-2017, 04:07 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Puerto Pensaco Mexico, just south of Rock Point
Posts: 11,530
Likes: 0
Received 266 Likes on 139 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by seanile boater View Post
i tried kilz to cover up water stain on the ceiling. So far 3 coats have bled through. What do you recommend ?
bin, Careful, its thin to so its very easy to be messy. but it works. The shellac base seals the stain and doesn't blead threw. As long as you don't get a wet ceiling again anyway .

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zinsser-1...0901/100398381

You need a good brush to use it but not to good because it will get ruined pretty quick. For small areas , I use those cheap throw away china brisil brushes.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.