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Old 08-26-2017, 07:12 AM
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We're looking to increase the value of our home so we're looking at low-cost upgrades with a high ROI. Our sun-room is already set up as a guest room but since it doesn't have a closet it isn't considered a bedroom. Would a pre-fab wardrobe count or does the closet have to be part of the structure? It would be easier to spend $130 for a finished product than to frame out and build a closet from scratch, but we don't want to spend the coin and pay an appraiser to tell us that isn't good enough.

Can you suggest any other budget-minded upgrades to consider?
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How are property taxes there. One of the more popular things, especially for waterfront homes, is to have bedrooms that work as such, but are not call bedrooms. The bedroom count is one of the contributors that runs up property taxes. For tax purposes here a bedroom must have both a closet and exterior window to be considered a bedroom.
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If you are looking to increase the value of your house, would indicate selling before to long. A selling point could be, " this room works as a bedroom but the house is taxed as a 3 bedroom house versus a 4 bedroom house."
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Ask a real estate agent in your area if the wardrobe counts. In some places it does, others it doesn't. Should be easy to find one that will answer your question. I found this with a simple web search. https://www.zillow.com/advice-thread...ptions/499517/
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Wardrobe does not count here. For DE needs a window which opens of certain minimum dimensions, needs to be walled off (lofts don't count as a BR for example), and needs a built in closet.
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Current trend is to update the front door, well, one of them.
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A pre fab wardrobe may work for you as a closet to convert the room to a bedroom, but it isn't officially considered a bedroom until it has a framed closet. Without a framed closet, it is considered a bonus room. A buyer may put a pre fabbed wardrobe into and use it as a bedroom, but you can't list it (at least not on the MLS) as a bedroom without a framed closet.

Depending upon the location and size of the house, there are various ways to market it. I recently sold a 2 bedroom with a large laundry room under air that was the width of a one car garage that had a door enter it off the kitchen and another door that entered it from the garage....basically, walked into the laundry room through a door from the garage on the south wall, walked through the laundry room and entered the house through a door on the west wall of the laundry room. Guy that bought the house from me moved the washer and dryer into the garage and made that room into his daughters bedroom. With smaller houses and people on a budget with a price cap, they will make it work for them. I bought a house not long ago that the people were using the sun room with multiple windows on three sides and a door leading to the exterior as a bedroom. Generally, when you get into the larger houses in nicer neighborhoods, people tend to use the rooms as they are designed and intended. Guess the whole question boils down to what size house and neighborhood you are in.
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In my town, the number of "bedrooms" is dictated by your septic system design. I have 4 bedrooms in my house, but because I have a 3 bedroom septic system I can only market my house as a 3 bedroom.
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Generally speaking the things I have found in flipping houses and what my clients look at most are kitchen, floors and bathrooms in that order.
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Put a fireplace and some bookshelves in there and call it a library.
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Technically, in most areas. For a bedroom to be a bedroom you need a built-in closet (framed, with door) and a window that a person can safely fit through.

What adds value?

That depends on the area.
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Curious how this works with older homes that were built with zero closets in bedrooms, hence the original wardrobes?
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Does your sun room have a floor flush with the rest of the house? I believe this is a requirement for res. space also
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Originally Posted by AC View Post
Does your sun room have a floor flush with the rest of the house? I believe this is a requirement for res. space also
Not a requirement in FL as many smaller homes in lower income areas will convert the garage into living space. You have to have a minimum of 6'8" ceiling height for living space which precludes many conversion from having the floor brought flush with the rest of the house.
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Originally Posted by Craash420 View Post
We're looking to increase the value of our home so we're looking at low-cost upgrades with a high ROI. Our sun-room is already set up as a guest room but since it doesn't have a closet it isn't considered a bedroom. Would a pre-fab wardrobe count or does the closet have to be part of the structure? It would be easier to spend $130 for a finished product than to frame out and build a closet from scratch, but we don't want to spend the coin and pay an appraiser to tell us that isn't good enough.

Can you suggest any other budget-minded upgrades to consider?
If you have a septic be mindful of its design size. You can't market a 4 bedroom house on a 3 bed septic
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With the relative height of Port St Lucie to sea level, I seriously doubt that any homes over there are on septic tank.
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You ask, "what makes a bedroom a bedroom?".

Everyone I know considers it a bedroom when they put a bed in the room.

I dont know any fancy folks though.
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Originally Posted by InternationalMarineBrian View Post
Curious how this works with older homes that were built with zero closets in bedrooms, hence the original wardrobes?
Historic buildings here are given exemption. Has to be registered historic, though, not just 'an old house'. You think HOA boards are nazis? Try a getting a historical society to agree to renovations.
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