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38 double action. How light can you make trigger pull?

Old 07-29-2017, 06:18 AM
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Default 38 double action. How light can you make trigger pull?

My wife likes her s&w 38 (model 638 that has a cut off hammer). She is getting some arthritis and it is getting harder for her to shoot. How light can you make pull on one of these and still have it shoot?
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:26 AM
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:47 AM
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Might consider installing this kit: Apex Tactical Duty/Carry Spring Kit
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Are her wrist healthy enough to handle the recoil?
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Spring kit. I would also swing by a shop and have her check out a Chiappa. They have a trigger pull almost like a good double action automatic. Worth checking out. They also have a better recoil profile due to the barrel being on the bottom rather than the top of the cylinder.
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Need to get it down to at least 5 lbs. She has no problem with her glock 19 which has a 5.5 lb pull. The spring kits gets it to 9 from 12.
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Originally Posted by joe.giuliano View Post
Need to get it down to at least 5 lbs. She has no problem with her glock 19 which has a 5.5 lb pull. The spring kits gets it to 9 from 12.
That's going to be very difficult to achieve.
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I put a spring kit in my 642 and it's a lot nicer to shoot with the lighter trigger pull.Started at 12 lbs and ended with 5.5-6 lbs.Still hits the primer hard.
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Originally Posted by muskamoot View Post
I put a spring kit in my 642 and it's a lot nicer to shoot with the lighter trigger pull.Started at 12 lbs and ended with 5.5-6 lbs.Still hits the primer hard.
Which kit?
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Sorry but a spring kit didn't take a 642 to 5.5-6 lbs. didn't happen. I e been a gunsmith since 94 and you can't take a 642 to 5.5 lbs and reliable ignition with springs and ALOT of work. There is some extreme hammer work that competition uspsa shooters do to get lighter pulls and shorter lock times but it should never ever be done on a carry gun. A good smith doing an action job can get that to a reliable 7lbs. The little J frames are tougher than Ks and Ns simply cause they're so much smaller and the geometry is more acute
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Originally Posted by Erobinson1 View Post
Sorry but a spring kit didn't take a 642 to 5.5-6 lbs. didn't happen. I e been a gunsmith since 94 and you can't take a 642 to 5.5 lbs and reliable ignition with springs and ALOT of work. There is some extreme hammer work that competition uspsa shooters do to get lighter pulls and shorter lock times but it should never ever be done on a carry gun. A good smith doing an action job can get that to a reliable 7lbs. The little J frames are tougher than Ks and Ns simply cause they're so much smaller and the geometry is more acute
Can send it to you?
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Sure. More important than weight is smoothness of the trigger though. An 8lb smooth trigger with no stacking is much easier shooting than a 6 lb that stacks and feels like a 3 stage trigger. PM me for shipping info.
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Someone did a trigger job on my Colt OM (before I got it) and they made a very light pull but the gun did not reliably go bang DA. I put stock springs back in it.
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It it was me, I'd buy a Ruger LCR in 38 spl (not the 357) and shoot it as-is. Just try on and you'll see how nice the trigger pull is. It doesn't stack up like the Smith, and I like the idea of keeping carry weapons stock.
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Thanks guys. I am going to send it to Erobinson1 and see what he can do. It is a bedside gun not a carry gun for her. I bought her a Glock 19 last week that she shot OK with so if the 38 does not work out for her I'll just use that myself. the s&w has some emotional value so I want to keep it.
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I had a 65 smith done by a renound gunsmith (Deceased) Had it in my hands today ...

Amazing ! he had it 3 months and I was an RO and used it to demonstrate what he could
do...

Will have my LGS put it on the pull guage Tuesday ...
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Originally Posted by jobowker View Post
it it was me, i'd buy a ruger lcr in 38 spl (not the 357) and shoot it as-is. Just try on and you'll see how nice the trigger pull is. It doesn't stack up like the smith, and i like the idea of keeping carry weapons stock.
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You can make the triggerpull on most S&W revolvers so light they dont take factory ammo!

I shoot K frames mostly, competition use, we load with federal primers and seat them deep to have them go bang every time, so for self defense, dont tune it that much, but it gives you an idea of whats possible.
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Originally Posted by Erobinson1 View Post
Sorry but a spring kit didn't take a 642 to 5.5-6 lbs. didn't happen. I e been a gunsmith since 94 and you can't take a 642 to 5.5 lbs and reliable ignition with springs and ALOT of work. There is some extreme hammer work that competition uspsa shooters do to get lighter pulls and shorter lock times but it should never ever be done on a carry gun. A good smith doing an action job can get that to a reliable 7lbs. The little J frames are tougher than Ks and Ns simply cause they're so much smaller and the geometry is more acute
Well,dammit you made me go measure the pull.It's 7-1/2 to 8 lbs,closer to 8.Should have checked before I posted.Also did some polishing and cleaned the factory supplied metal chips out of the action.200 rounds of factory and reloaded ammo,no misfires yet.
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