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Old 05-31-2017, 03:16 PM
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What's required to prove your "dog" is a "Service Dog" ???
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What's required to prove your "dog" is a "Service Dog" ???
Next to nothing. Can all be done online. I know someone in CA that spends half her time writing scripts/notes for services dogs due to "anxiety". I also know someone who has a certificate only because they don't want to pay to fly their dog. I don't approve of either.
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My ex GF has a "service dog". How did it become a service dog? She calls it that. And that is all it takes, apparently...
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"Emotional support animals, comfort animals, and therapy dogs are not service animals under Title II and Title III of the ADA. Other species of animals, whether wild or domestic, trained or untrained, are not considered service animals either. The work or tasks performed by a service animal must be directly related to the individual’s disability. It does not matter if a person has a note from a doctor that states that the person has a disability and needs to have the animal for emotional support. A doctor’s letter does not turn an animal into a service animal.
Examples of animals that fit the ADA’s definition of “service animal” because they have been specifically trained to perform a task for the person with a disability:"
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"Emotional support animals, comfort animals, and therapy dogs are not service animals under Title II and Title III of the ADA. Other species of animals, whether wild or domestic, trained or untrained, are not considered service animals either. The work or tasks performed by a service animal must be directly related to the individual’s disability. It does not matter if a person has a note from a doctor that states that the person has a disability and needs to have the animal for emotional support. A doctor’s letter does not turn an animal into a service animal.
Examples of animals that fit the ADA’s definition of “service animal” because they have been specifically trained to perform a task for the person with a disability:"
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It's a damn shame that people are skirting/bending the rules. Google "service dog" and the first 4 hits are ads on how to register your "service dog" (eyes rolling back)

My goldendoodle is a certified therapy dog....therapy for others....vets, elderly etc. I sure don't take her in stores, restaurants etc where she's NOT allowed.

I'll bet ya dollars to donuts that half the so called "service dogs" out there nowadays never had a lick of training.
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May I ask why your asking this question? If the dog is really a need, then lets help you figure this out. Please do not let anyone get away with pretending that the dog is a service animal.
Service animals are grate but to many people try to play the system. TO answer your question, there is paperwork involved. Also the user of the dog willl have to have a medical disability that is declared by the ADA. Most of the time a service dog wil come from a training school or will require training after the dog is selected by the master.

If you have anymore questions I well check back when I am not posting from my phone.
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Originally Posted by gotfw View Post
"Emotional support animals, comfort animals, and therapy dogs are not service animals under Title II and Title III of the ADA. Other species of animals, whether wild or domestic, trained or untrained, are not considered service animals either. The work or tasks performed by a service animal must be directly related to the individual’s disability. It does not matter if a person has a note from a doctor that states that the person has a disability and needs to have the animal for emotional support. A doctor’s letter does not turn an animal into a service animal.
Examples of animals that fit the ADA’s definition of “service animal” because they have been specifically trained to perform a task for the person with a disability:"

So is there a uniform certificate that establishes a dog as a service animal? My ex, when challenged had some form in her purse, and would also freak out and threaten to sue (she's a lawyer). The form was something she printed herself.

The ADA may have restrictions on what can be a service animal, but how is this established? How does a proprietor confirm this when the animal is being a problem in their premises? Nothing like having two "service dogs" running around loose in your establishment..
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My friend is a steward. Service pigs and chickens are actually allowed on planes
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Where I work you're not allowed to bring dogs in unless they are service dogs, about 1 year ago we were no longer allowed to even ask if it was a service dog. Picture someone bringing a large dog into a crowed place without a muzzle and you have zero ability to limit it.

Not a good thing.
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very interesting, I have been seeing a few dogs in restaurants lately and wondered about it, they must have been service or therapy dogs, usually think of a service dog as big enough and trained enough to keep the owners out of trouble, not the case with these small fellows.
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My friend is a steward. Service pigs and chickens are actually allowed on planes
There is no such thing as a "service" pig or chicken. Emotional support animals can be anything. Very different though.

The law states that a service animal (currently only a dog or miniature horse) is an animal that has been individually trained to mitigate the disability of the handler. So that person has to have a qualifying disability that the animal has been trained to mitigate.

So for example, a service miniature horse can be trained to pull an individual in a wheelchair who can't walk, but the same animal for someone who has a different disability but the animal hasn't or can't be trained for does not qualify.

There's some additional rules for certain types of businesses like airlines who don't have to follow the ADA laws that make distinction between psychiatric service animals and "regular" ones who mitigate physical disabilities.
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A service dog is a type of assistance dog specifically trained to help people who have disabilities, such as visual impairment, hearing impairments, mental illnesses (such as posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD)), seizure disorder, mobility impairment, and diabetes.

Service animals are working animals, not pets. The work or task a dog has been trained to provide must be directly related to the person's disability. Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support DO NOT qualify as service animals under the ADA.

Service animals are defined as dogs that are individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. Examples of such work or tasks include guiding people who are blind, alerting people who are deaf, pulling a wheelchair, alerting and protecting a person who is having a seizure, reminding a person with mental illness to take prescribed medications, calming a person with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) during an anxiety attack, or performing other duties. Service animals are working animals, not pets. The work or task a dog has been trained to provide must be directly related to the person’s disability. Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA.

This definition does not affect or limit the broader definition of “assistance animal” under the Fair Housing Act or the broader definition of “service animal” under the Air Carrier Access Act.

Some State and local laws also define service animal more broadly than the ADA does. Information about such laws can be obtained from the State attorney general’s office.



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there really needs to be a crack down on this

these fake service dog (notice I said FAKE) and worse these fake emotional support animal idiots deserve to be beaten and then subjected to having to carry three cell phones everywhere they go with the numbers in all of the global robocall databases.....and they are required to answer each and every call

failure to answer a call gets you another beating and another phone
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Originally Posted by fireisland1 View Post
My friend is a steward. Service pigs and chickens are actually allowed on planes
Seen it all. 80 pound golden retriever under my seat. Not fun. It's kinda crazy what they allow on planes considering some people could have severe allergies. Service ducks as well.apprently that's a thing now. What has our world come to lol.
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You guys are a couple of steps behind.

Introducing .... wait for it....




The service turkey
http://kfor.com/2016/01/13/turkey-al...ervice-animal/
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Thanks Guys the response has been AWESOME !!!
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Originally Posted by Ifishalot View Post
You guys are a couple of steps behind.

Introducing .... wait for it....




The service turkey
http://kfor.com/2016/01/13/turkey-al...ervice-animal/

The airline may have allowed it but by "law" (DOJ) and the ADA a turkey can not be, and is not, considered a service animal.


https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
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I have seen some amazing service dogs and have no problem with them. Ones that can detect seizures/diabetic emergencies etc. Also the ones that lead the blind. These are a special special case of animal and cost tens of thousands of dollars to train, and you can tell why. I would have no problem with an 80# Golden Retriever under the seat of a person that truly needs the service the animal provides. It is almost like those dogs have only access to the brain that does the service. They stay at the heels of their owner, sit/lay without even being told, never seen a sign of aggressiveness out of any of them. If you ever have some time take a look:

http://www.sdwr.org/

http://www.sdwr.org/wp-content/uploa...nda-SD.mp4#t=3
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to be a true service dog, the handler and K9 has to be certified and then re-certified every 3 years......
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