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Old 05-22-2017, 06:18 AM
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With kids college coming up, we've decided not to renew our cars. My wife's 2012 Nissan Maxima is showing signs that a battery replacement is in order. First time in decades that I've had to replace a battery and I'm sure I'm overthinking it but looking for any suggestions before I throw $260 on an OEM replacement.
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Old 05-22-2017, 06:30 AM
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Why would you buy a OEM battery? (what ever that is) Get yourself a interstate battery. $125.00.
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Why would you buy a OEM battery? (what ever that is) Get yourself a interstate battery. $125.00.
Because believe it or not Nissan recommends their name branded battery (read the sarcasm).
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Napa Legend. My last one went for 7 years.
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Wife has a BMW that will flash a code if you replace with an aftermarket. You then have to take the car back to BMW to have it re-set for $$$$...Ask me how I know.. This may be the same with Nissan...Nice Huh? Or as they say....Gotcha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by D.M.D. View Post
Wife has a BMW that will flash a code if you replace with an aftermarket. You then have to take the car back to BMW to have it re-set for $$$$...Ask me how I know.. This may be the same with Nissan...Nice Huh? Or as they say....Gotcha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BMW is the only vehicle that I've heard requiring this. If there are more I've not seen it posted.

I've purchased batteries from several sources without very notable differences. Walmart, Advance, Auto Zone, NAPA and Toyota.

Thinking about it I've had good service with the Toyota batteries--Original and replacement.
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I like the Duracell one from batteries plus because it has a 3 year warranty. Have had one replaced rift after the 2 year mark which is about what the lifespan is in FL. Dunno if it's the best battery but the replacement warranty was good. Much of the OEM ones only have 1 year.
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Originally Posted by D.M.D. View Post
Wife has a BMW that will flash a code if you replace with an aftermarket. You then have to take the car back to BMW to have it re-set for $$$$...Ask me how I know.. This may be the same with Nissan...Nice Huh? Or as they say....Gotcha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You probably didn't keep juice going to ECM or whatever while swapping the battery...
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I had my Nissan in for inspection a couple months ago. They claim it is due for a new battery according to scheduled service intervals. Also due for spark plugs. 110,000 mi on a 2012. The price they gave me to replace the spark plugs was $386.00. I declined. didn;t have them price the battery. Have not had any indication that either is nearing need of replacement.

Last I checked, just about all the car batteries sold in the US came from 2 manufacturers. Johnson Controls, or East Penn MFG.

I believe East Penn still manufactures everything here in the US or possibly some in Canada.

Johnson Controls used to be US but now produces in China, India, Mexico and US.

A lot depends on your climate and your usage habits which battery will last the longest. It's not neccesarily brand related. Different group sizes from the same Mfg, have performed better than others of the same Mfg.

It seems the Napa Legend batteries are Deka/West Penn and Costco/Kirkland are Johnson Controls. Both are pretty highly rated/regarded and should last 3-5 years or more. Your mileage may vary with some other lower cost batteries. Of course suppliers are always changing to maximize profits.

When buying a battery, always check the date code on it to see how long it has been sitting on the shelf. Also give it a full charge before installing it and then recharge with a good pulse charger about once every 6 mo. Today's vehicles seldom ever fully charge a battery to full capacity as they have so many electronic components that are constantly on.
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Originally Posted by hudiefloats View Post
Because believe it or not Nissan recommends their name branded battery (read the sarcasm).
So does Ford and Gm
Nissan batteries are made by Johnson Control
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Originally Posted by round2it View Post
BMW is the only vehicle that I've heard requiring this. If there are more I've not seen it posted.

I've purchased batteries from several sources without very notable differences. Walmart, Advance, Auto Zone, NAPA and Toyota.

Thinking about it I've had good service with the Toyota batteries--Original and replacement.
Made by Johnson Controls
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Originally Posted by D.M.D. View Post
Wife has a BMW that will flash a code if you replace with an aftermarket. You then have to take the car back to BMW to have it re-set for $$$$...Ask me how I know.. This may be the same with Nissan...Nice Huh? Or as they say....Gotcha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not wanting to argue with you, but what is the difference between 12VDC from BMW as compared to 12VDC from Interstate?
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the bmw process is to adjust the cars charging system to "fit"" the new battery.
even tho since a long long time no one ever had to do that in this world..
what next?? , replace a headlight and take the car to the BMW dealer to optimize the elctrical system.???
Im told it costs $50-$100.
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Originally Posted by 1blueheron View Post
I had my Nissan in for inspection a couple months ago. They claim it is due for a new battery according to scheduled service intervals.
Something like that happened to me at the Honda dealership. Service manager said my battery was about to fail and needed replacing on my 5 YO Accord. I replied that I'd have to speak to the guy who put that new battery in 3 weeks ago. He just turned and walked away. Lying SOS.
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Originally Posted by crazybeard View Post
I like the Duracell one from batteries plus because it has a 3 year warranty. Have had one replaced rift after the 2 year mark which is about what the lifespan is in FL. Dunno if it's the best battery but the replacement warranty was good. Much of the OEM ones only have 1 year.
2 years average in Fl? Born and raised here and have never have a battery go out in 2 years. Wife's Sequoia lasted 6 years and I presume still going (we traded it in). Was the Platinum with. S load of electronics. Where you been getting your batteries? If you said 2 years in Eleuthera I would get it. Hope you are enjoying it over there!
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Originally Posted by Ahoy Vay View Post
2 years average in Fl? Born and raised here and have never have a battery go out in 2 years. Wife's Sequoia lasted 6 years and I presume still going (we traded it in). Was the Platinum with. S load of electronics. Where you been getting your batteries? If you said 2 years in Eleuthera I would get it. Hope you are enjoying it over there!
My buddy is a mechanic (independent) and he's told me 2 years +/- is the norm. He's not making any $ off me so I have no reason to doubt him. Plus I Changed the battery on 3 of my cars and my GF right at the 2 year mark when they died. Perhaps you have a garage with AC? heat may be the main culprit.
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Last I checked, just about all the car batteries sold in the US came from 2 manufacturers. Johnson Controls, or East Penn MFG.

I believe East Penn still manufactures everything here in the US or possibly some in Canada.

Johnson Controls used to be US but now produces in China, India, Mexico and US.

A lot depends on your climate and your usage habits which battery will last the longest. It's not neccesarily brand related. Different group sizes from the same Mfg, have performed better than others of the same Mfg.

It seems the Napa Legend batteries are Deka/West Penn and Costco/Kirkland are Johnson Controls. Both are pretty highly rated/regarded and should last 3-5 years or more. Your mileage may vary with some other lower cost batteries. Of course suppliers are always changing to maximize profits.

When buying a battery, always check the date code on it to see how long it has been sitting on the shelf. Also give it a full charge before installing it and then recharge with a good pulse charger about once every 6 mo. Today's vehicles seldom ever fully charge a battery to full capacity as they have so many electronic components that are constantly on.
Costco is cobranded interstate, which is a division of Johnson Controls. East Penn/deka is primarily deep cycle/specialty. Last time I checked NAPA used them for all their private label deep cycle, large, and specialty batteries, but mostly Johnson Controls batteries for the run of the mill car stuff. I don't think anyone is running anything east Penn OEM, as they are expensive in that category of batteries. Good bit of YUASA (high quality brand based out of Japan) OE in aisian imports, but their private label dealer batteries are almost all Johnson controls based.

Johnson controls doesn't just manufacture batteries. They also produce subcompoments that go in many people's private label batteries that are assembled all over the place. This is a pretty common option, as the components (less acid) can be shipped much more economically with no hazmat status when either disassembled/dry.
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I'm just curious, but why do car batteries only last 2 years in Florida? Is it the heat?

I have a 2003 Silverado that has had the battery replaced 1 time. I put in the second battery about 1.5 years ago.

I have a 2005 Silverado that still has the battery it came with.

My boat batteries are from 2009.

All are normal old lead acid batteries. None of the new fangled fancy batteries.

I'm in CA, it was 102 today so I don't think it would be heat though.
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I'm just curious, but why do car batteries only last 2 years in Florida? Is it the heat?

I have a 2003 Silverado that has had the battery replaced 1 time. I put in the second battery about 1.5 years ago.

I have a 2005 Silverado that still has the battery it came with.

My boat batteries are from 2009.

All are normal old lead acid batteries. None of the new fangled fancy batteries.

I'm in CA, it was 102 today so I don't think it would be heat though.
Heat is definitely a killer. In that environment there are big advantages to both AGM and maintainable we sell, properly kept filled with distilled or deionized water.
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Wife has a 2008 solstice bought new and still the original battery...
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