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Old 05-16-2017, 03:35 PM
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I've been using a range extender and it's not that great. The internet tech was at my house for an unrelated nightmare yesterday, and since I was paying for the call, I asked him. He suggested a lightning line where it runs thruogh yuor electrical lines.

Problem is I have two or three items I want wifi to In a backyard office. Computer, scanner, and iPad.

My desire is to run the lightning line to the shop (same main panel, sub panel uotside) then plug the extender into the lightning line box outside. Now my range extender is within 8' of everything I want juice to.

Yea or nay?

Ps- my tech expertise level is about a 3.7/10.
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I have one I use in my basement and it works well, can't imagine why yours wouldn't.
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Every time you extend your range you cut your speed in half. Mesh Wi-Fi is the way to go if you need more than a couple access points.
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Anyone have experience with Mesh ?

I'm ready to convert from 4 AP's that sux
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How far is everything that you want to connect and where is the access point relative to these devices?? You could probably get away with just a good directional antenna rather than a range extender.
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I use a LOT of a product called Open Mesh. It fairly easy to configure and cost effective. Each access point is around $100.
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About $75 on Amazon and your best bet, Open Mesh for sure.
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You want eero.

https://eero.com
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Originally Posted by Rival1 View Post
I have one I use in my basement and it works well, can't imagine why yours wouldn't.
The lightning wire says nothing about hooking to an extender, just plug Ethernet To a single device . That's my plan though, since I have three wifi devices in my office.

Honestly since I just upgraded modem my office has been solid, but I've spent about three hours out there with new modem, so that's not a fair assessment.
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How far is everything that you want to connect and where is the access point relative to these devices?? You could probably get away with just a good directional antenna rather than a range extender.
My office is about 70' or 80' from my current router/modem. Couple walls in between.
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Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
You want eero.

https://eero.com
Yes, I need that. How many millions of dollars is that?
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Open mesh is good stuff, and pretty cheap, I have used some of that too.

Ubiquiti makes what is probably the most cost-effective and functional wifi extender system if you are not an IT guy.
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Yes, I need that. How many millions of dollars is that?
$399 for the three-pack. Install the smartphone app, plug the first eero base into your cable modem, and the app will tell you where to place the rest.
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I would recommend either the Open Mesh recommended above or look into the Netgear Orbi.

Had eero at offices for a while and had to replace.
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I hate this shit. Absolutely hate it.

All I want is for my tech items to work properly 100% of the time. I don't want to trouble shoot, ever. I pay for fast internet, just freaking work!
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Which Open Mesh device would be the best choice to replace an AP (not mounted) ? All are wired
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Just run CAT-6 to your shop and be done with it. Cheap and easy and nothing will work as well as copper. Except fiber.
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they work great I use zyxel power line adapters. The key is to make sure the outlet in the house and the one in the shed is on the same side of the panel and you will get good throughput.

I would put one in the house, one in the shed and hang a ubiquity wifi access point off of the zyxel then you would have wifi in the shed and the back part of the yard.
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The subpanel kills the powerline adapters. Mesh is for one building. Can you get a cable run (CAT5e) to the side of your house facing your shop? I put one of these at one of my customers' restaurant. So far, so good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I use this to get good wifi at the dock. Ubiquiti NanoStation loco M2. It is a directional (30 degree) strong signal. You can go incredible distances with two units. I only needed one and configured it as an AP. I have it mounted on the side of my house facing the backyard.

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Nano...ments=p_85%3A1
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The problem with whole home Wi-Fi is that Wi-Fi was never intended to light up an entire home, especially large homes. Wi-Fi was intended to light up a room or two, at most. The FCC limits Wi-Fi transmissions to 600mw and on only 11 channels. 600mw will transmit around a couple thousand feet in clear air but put four sheets of drywall in between and you eliminate or severely cripple the signal.

Manufacturers do their best at using very exotic antennas and directionality to extend the range of wireless access points but mostly it’s all about the marketing.

The other issue is the client device. iPhones are known for having an anemic Wi-Fi radio. An iPhone may see the WAP but no matter how hard it tries it can’t transmit back. This adds to the frustration level because the user can see a couple bars of Wi-Fi signal but the Wi-Fi doesn’t work or is painfully slow.

In an average size home of 2000-3000 square feet I suggest a minimum of one WAP per 800-1000 square feet. Additional WAPs are needed if the home is not very rectangular or has architectural features. The problem with larger homes is once you pass three WAPs you get into channel overlap. At that point you need a mesh system.

A good mesh system manages the handoff from one WAP to the next. If you don’t have mesh your client device will be trying to talk to a far away WAP when a closer one would be better.

My advice is always forget range extenders, power line adapters and all the other “snake oil”. Install a good mesh system and have satisfactory Wi-Fi. Then you can worry about something else.

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