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Old 05-17-2017, 04:27 AM
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Not been my experience. My apple hardware has outlasted any competition on a regular basis. This early 2011 Macbook pro I am working on right now is a little slower than it used to be but I have to loaded down with junk. Ive found Apple stuff to stand the test of time. Its inevitable that programming gets larger and larger. But hardware wise Apple puts out a durable product.
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:38 AM
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You don't think it has something to do with the server speed? I have ATT at my home and doing a speed test it says 99.7 percent of the USA has faster speed than us.
We have windstream at another location and it is super fast.
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Planned obsolescence, no doubt in my mind Apple is guilty of this. Notice how they push the updates on you almost daily, then if you update with the new OS they'll feed you some line of shit about how your $700 device you bought 2 years ago doesn't have the capacity to support the new OS so you will need to buy the newest device.

Simple way to deal, do not upgrade the OS.. Avoid it like the plague, just keep rolling over the reminder.
please take off your tinfoil hat about an apple conspiracy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

as processing speeds increase, developers build new features that use that excess capacity. most of these features are demanded by customers. he new features end up making the older processors obsolete. this is not an apple conspriracy...
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Originally Posted by happyjack92 View Post
please take off your tinfoil hat about an apple conspiracy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

as processing speeds increase, developers build new features that use that excess capacity. most of these features are demanded by customers. he new features end up making the older processors obsolete. this is not an apple conspriracy...
Not conspiracy. But forced obsolescence.

If not they could make older versions of the os available.

They could also make it possible to turn off updates.

Then people with older devices could run them for years and years.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:29 AM
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The issue with the iPad 2 slowing down/crashing has to do with the IOS and updates Apple "recommended" you do. The iPad 2 only has 512K of RAM, while the new ones come with 2+GB, which IOS really needs. You can do all the resets and remove unwanted apps all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that there just isn't enough memory to run the OS. I had the original iPad mini, and just replaced it last week with a new one because it got to the point I couldn't read websites without it either crashing or Safari reloading the page endlessly.
I was about to say this. Apple's latest Ipad is, gulp, relatively affordable.

Currently $299 with 32 GB of storage.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-ip...?skuId=4907703

or $399 with 128 GB of storage
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-ip...?skuId=4908800
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Insolent1 View Post
Not conspiracy. But forced obsolescence.

If not they could make older versions of the os available.

They could also make it possible to turn off updates.

Then people with older devices could run them for years and years.
Nailed it.

Apple jams these updates down your throat and sooner or later you press the wrong key and it auto updates.

Watch as the next few weeks your device speeds wither away to nothing and you're forced to buy the next product.

It has happened to every iPhone I have owned
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Insolent1 View Post
Not conspiracy. But forced obsolescence.

If not they could make older versions of the os available.

They could also make it possible to turn off updates.

Then people with older devices could run them for years and years.
We've already been discussing why you don't turn off updates.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside...ws-do-now.html
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Originally Posted by Liveactionfishing View Post
Nailed it.

Apple jams these updates down your throat and sooner or later you press the wrong key and it auto updates.

Watch as the next few weeks your device speeds wither away to nothing and you're forced to buy the next product.

It has happened to every iPhone I have owned
Its really hard to get people off old software. I think apple does a good job at keeping its audience on a current platform. Not supporting all old OS versions let them focus elsewhere.

I remember when iOS8 came out and they stopped offering updates for the iphone 4.
I have an old ipad mini that cannot get iOS10.
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What I've learned!

1. Apple sucks!
2. Apple deliberately slowed down my machine!
3. If I passed on the updates, It would run fine!


Soooooooooooooo

If I can figure out how to re-set this little guy back to its original factory settings, will that also wipe out the newer OS, and replace with the older version?

I'm thinking....NOT, but don't know fir sure!

AND...

If I can't remove this newer OS, which my I-Pad can't really handle because of its limited memory, I'm screwed....correct?
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:29 PM
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Just get a new one. Or check out Apple's refurbished stuff — its checklist for refurbishment is so painstaking that sometimes the refurb stuff is better than new.
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Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
Just get a new one. Or check out Apple's refurbished stuff — its checklist for refurbishment is so painstaking that sometimes the refurb stuff is better than new.


Just not wired that way....this work fine, but it's slow. I truly hate and dispise discarding anything that still works well.

I'm going to try the factory reset and see what that does first, then tinker from there.

Thanks.
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:48 PM
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If I can figure out how to re-set this little guy back to its original factory settings, will that also wipe out the newer OS, and replace with the older version?
No it won't revert you back to an older OS.

The factory reset may help some. Give it a shot. If you do it right, it really can't hurt.

To do it right follow these steps.
1. Plug iPad into computer with iTunes and do a full backup. Do the full backup to the computer, not just the backup to iCloud.
2. Make sure the backup is available in iTunes. In iTunes, go to preferences and then Devices. Your backup should show there with the latest date.
3. On your iPad go to Settings --> General --> Reset --> Erase All Content and Settings. You'll need to confirm a couple of times that you really want to erase everything. Also, if you've enabled Find My iPhone, I believe you'll need to turn that off in iCloud settings (menu location varies by iOS version.)

Once it's done, you'll be looking at an iPad that is not associated to any Apple ID. You'll want to plug in the iPad to iTunes again and Restore from the backup. Once this is done, and your apps have re-downloaded, you'll be left with everything where you left it. Only hopefully it will be a bit faster.
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best buy will give you $100 credit for an Ipad 2, $112 for a black model

https://tradein.bestbuy.com/client/?...10INT#/catalog

going to take mine in tomorrow if their offer still stands
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Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
We've already been discussing why you don't turn off updates.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside...ws-do-now.html
yes I've been following that. but apple is a little different than windows,

if your not using the device for anything important and just want it to run faster not updating an i pad would be acceptable. if it were to get a virus just wipe it out and reset. no harm no foul.
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
What I've learned!

1. Apple sucks!
2. Apple deliberately slowed down my machine!
3. If I passed on the updates, It would run fine!


Soooooooooooooo

If I can figure out how to re-set this little guy back to its original factory settings, will that also wipe out the newer OS, and replace with the older version?

I'm thinking....NOT, but don't know fir sure!

AND...

If I can't remove this newer OS, which my I-Pad can't really handle because of its limited memory, I'm screwed....correct?
if you have an old back up on i tunes you can reset your device to factory. restore from oldest back up you have and then you would be running on the oldest os from the back up. then just don't update it anymore.

you really can get usefull life out of it. i still use mine regularly.
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Originally Posted by Insolent1 View Post
if you have an old back up on i tunes you can reset your device to factory. restore from oldest back up you have and then you would be running on the oldest os from the back up. then just don't update it anymore.
No that won't work... the restore from oldest backup doesn't revert you to the oldest version of iOS. You'll only restore your oldest data and lose anything on the iPad after that backup.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Insolent1 View Post
Keeping the os current really slows down old iPads and phones.

Reset might help
Best answer,!!!!!!!! after the iPad is say over 3=4 years old DO NOT DO UPDATES of the IOS.

I reset my original mini and got rid of MANY APPS and it did help a little but it is still SLOW.
For about a $100 or less certain models of a Amazon tablet or a Samsung cheep one might work a whole lot faster,
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:44 AM
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Mine, same thing. Not sure of version, first mini with front/back cameras.
even the touch screen is slow to respond.
Not much on it, music, web surfer.
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Just going to perform a complete reset.
I have no "apps", no "data", nothing that is saved on this IPad ..

Thanks everyone. Going to do this tonight, I'll report back!
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Download the older iOS you want:
https://ipsw.me/

Install the downgraded version:
https://www.howtogeek.com/230144/how...phone-or-ipad/

Or just get the right "jailbroken" version, the unit is out of warranty anyway.
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