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Old 03-31-2017, 11:05 PM
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Saw a Craigslist ad for 2006 Yamaha 130hp 2 stroke twins, seller was taking offers, no photos. He was repowering to four strokes at a dealer. I called him up, he said he was looking for $2500 but would take an offer; I countered at $1500, which he accepted. The deal was structured so that I would pay the dealer a fee to check and crate the engines and take to a freight forwarder, and pay the seller through the dealer. While checking around regarding this engine model, I found that Yamaha quit making the 130 hp 2 stroke in 2004.

I called the seller and presented this info; he then told me they were 2003 models sold new and put into service in 2006. I then asked him to tell the service department of the dealer to run printouts for the engines, so I would know what kind of shape they were in. He agreed.
That was several days ago.

Today, having had no contact from the freight forwarder, who was supposed to get the data to quote a shipping price from the dealer, or contact from the dealer on anything, I started calling and emailing. I heard back from the service manager from the dealer, who said he had sent me an email a week ago with a quote (he didn't) and that he couldn't get a printout for the motors, as they were 1996 year models. He sent a quote of $355.73 to crate and transport the 2 engines to the freight forwarder. The freight forwarder then sent me a quote for about $577 for shipping from Honolulu to Pago Pago. So all together I should be looking at about $2500 delivered for 21 year old motors..

I am not happy about a 10 year surprise; the other fees are what they are. The seller has not responded to me yet regarding the date change, but seemingly he has misrepresented facts twice to me directly. The freight forwarder and the dealer have not communicated for 2 weeks until I hunted them down today. What do you think of this deal?
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Old 04-01-2017, 01:03 AM
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I think you're not getting good communication and honest info and the dealer doesn't seem to be very up on your side so I would walk.
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Old 04-01-2017, 03:59 AM
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If they have not been honest up to this point what makes you think the engines will be as stated when they arrive.
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Old 04-01-2017, 04:07 AM
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I find that people are at their BEST before a deal is closed. Imagine how these clowns are going to act once they have your money.

Tell them you're not interested anymore and don't bat an eye.
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They are doing you a favor by not taking to you, let the deal pass. Atleast one person is in here is lying and it's not worth the risk.
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Any time there is confusion on a deal it is time to walk. No clue what you will actually get if anything.
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Old 04-01-2017, 05:58 AM
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You didn't ask for a single photo??? Pictures are necessary, overall, engine, serial numbers, etc.
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Somebody correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think that the date of motors is the year that they are placed into service. If a 2003 motor isn't sold until 2006, then they are called 2006 motors.

...but 1996 is way off the charts, even in the South Pacific.
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Old 04-01-2017, 12:42 PM
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The seller sent me an email apologizing for not knowing the year of the engines as he had only had the boat for a year and the previous owner told him they were 2006 models, they ran great except for some thermostat and oil pump issues, yadda yadda yadda....bottom line, he withdrew the sale, thus sparing himself the agony of rejection. I simply replied that was for the best and copied the owner of the dealership. It is inconceivable to me that one can own motors for a year and have work done on them and not know the year of the motors.
On the bright side, I now know how much it would cost to get motors shipped down from Hawaii.
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Originally Posted by sshimanek View Post
The seller sent me an email apologizing for not knowing the year of the engines as he had only had the boat for a year and the previous owner told him they were 2006 models, they ran great except for some thermostat and oil pump issues, yadda yadda yadda....bottom line, he withdrew the sale, thus sparing himself the agony of rejection. I simply replied that was for the best and copied the owner of the dealership. It is inconceivable to me that one can own motors for a year and have work done on them and not know the year of the motors.
On the bright side, I now know how much it would cost to get motors shipped down from Hawaii.
My guess, based on what I have seen here. His engines were probly newer engines and the dealer ended up wanting them and tried to do the old switch on you.
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And here I thought this was a April Fools joke........
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:35 PM
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Even though the seller claimed he and the dealer were buddies, the dealer sent me an email claiming he knew nothing about the sale price, year, or condition other than they were "running"; I spoke to him on the phone and sent an email with details of the deal 2 weeks ago, which he approved....my guess is he is covering his butt. He also wants to still sell me something.
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:37 PM
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No offense, but if memory serves me right you are not having much luck buying things for "export" are you?
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Old 04-01-2017, 11:50 PM
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Actually I have been buying quite a lot lately....rods, reels, lures, pumps, portapottie, electronics, etc. What's your point?
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