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TorFed 03-31-2017 05:30 AM

Single Shotgun Safe?
 
Switching from a pistol to a tactical shotgun for home protection. I keep all the other guns in a safe out in the garage, but need advice or ideas for a single shotgun safe or way to keep this secure as we have a 4 year old daughter. Would be in bedroom. Suggestions for something that isn't huge or massively expensive that can securely store 1 shotgun?

wahoo wacker 03-31-2017 05:39 AM

shotlock... mounts to wall and you have a 4 number code to get the gun out.

aubv 03-31-2017 05:46 AM

Two ideas - monster vault under bed and AMSEC DV652 under bed (smaller of the two) neither is single gun safe.

What shotgun?

Qb1rdman 03-31-2017 05:51 AM

Smaller safe to store the ammo?

TorFed 03-31-2017 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Qb1rdman (Post 10128321)
Smaller safe to store the ammo?

Already have one where the handgun currently is.

Qb1rdman 03-31-2017 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by TorFed (Post 10128399)
Already have one where the handgun currently is.


Well there you go...Just throw the shotgun in the closet.

blaineC 03-31-2017 06:36 AM

I have this safe under the bed, and it is outstanding for the purpose. The push button lock allows quick access but keeps curious kids out.You can undo the lock in less than two seconds.There is also a foam bad and velcro straps inside to keep it secure if the safe is moved. Since my kids are now older, I now just keep the shotgun in the safe unlocked.

https://www.amazon.com/V-Line-Quick-...ds=v-line+safe

tommyjones 03-31-2017 06:39 AM

i grew up with a wall rack. My son did as well. It was high enough that he couldn't get to it until he was old enough to know better. It is very difficult for a kid to shoot themselves with a shotgun, so you are a little safer than with a handgun. If the ammo is going in a small safe anyway you are all good.

soflah3 03-31-2017 06:50 AM

Why not go all out?

https://www.thegunbox.com/collection.../sk-1-tactical

Shag 03-31-2017 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by soflah3 (Post 10128561)

Now that's pretty cool!

Insider 03-31-2017 07:15 AM

get one of these....just kidding they are kind of dumb IMO


Bailey Boat 03-31-2017 07:35 AM

Mossberg used to make a single gun wall rack with a key lock. It was called "Loc-Box" It's part number is 16440 I believe....

BarryD 03-31-2017 09:03 AM

How about just mounting it in the closet just above the door.

TorFed 03-31-2017 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Qb1rdman (Post 10128409)
Well there you go...Just throw the shotgun in the closet.

So when eventually a kid brings a few of their dads shells over....


Originally Posted by BarryD (Post 10129059)
How about just mounting it in the closet just above the door.

See above.

Keep em comin guys!

By the way going to sell the handgun. Will list it on here with pics this weekend. Sig P226 MK25 fired about 50 times.

TorFed 03-31-2017 11:35 AM

And closet won't work due to layout I'd have to make 3 tight turns and avoid doors before I'd be back in bedroom.

Qb1rdman 03-31-2017 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by TorFed (Post 10129554)
So when eventually a kid brings a few of their dads shells over....

I gotta assume the kid would also bring dad's gun too, no?

If your way of thinking takes you straight to edge case scenarios I might suggest you think about that dog you have. No, not the hot dog.

My Gal 03-31-2017 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by wahoo wacker (Post 10128268)
shotlock... mounts to wall and you have a 4 number code to get the gun out.


This^^^^

TorFed 03-31-2017 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Qb1rdman (Post 10129588)
I gotta assume the kid would also bring dad's gun too, no?

If your way of thinking takes to straight to edge case scenarios I might suggest you think about that dog you have. No, not the hot dog.

You can be an unhelpful asshole and try to spin this to a pit bull thread if you would like. Go for it.

I see to it firearms in my home are locked up at all times, loaded or not.

For those providing helpful solutions thank you.

Shag 03-31-2017 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by BarryD (Post 10129059)
How about just mounting it in the closet just above the door.

Understand that is good idea for a smash and grab burglary but with TorFed's daughter living there it might not be a great idea, at least not in a couple more years. JMHO.

Do you have room in the bedroom for a wall shelf? Been thinking about getting one of these myself. Just don't EVER let her see you use it. Whatever you choose, you will probably have to change strategy when she gets older anyway.

http://www.covertcabinets.com/

TorFed 03-31-2017 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Shag (Post 10129625)
Understand that is good idea for a smash and grab burglary but with TorFed's daughter living there it might not be a great idea, at least not in a couple more years. JMHO.

Do you have room in the bedroom for a wall shelf? Been thinking about getting one of these myself. Just don't EVER let her see you use it. Whatever you choose, you will probably have to change strategy when she gets older anyway.

http://www.covertcabinets.com/

Those could work if they had a lock. Isn't there a company similar to that that has like a magnetized lock system?

takemorepills 03-31-2017 12:17 PM

Where I grew up, I was around a lot of Mormon families who would raise their kinds with firearms. I believe if you are going to have a firearm in the house, the kids should know about it, how to use it and how to be safe. And they should practice often. My son is totally disinterested in our stuff because 1.) it's been around his whole life and I have taught him how to use. 2.) since it is not taboo in our home, it doesn't interest him to even pay a second thought to it. (BTW I do lock it up because we have other people around, so I don't leave our stuff easily accessible)
I only mention that because I sense a concern over firearms with kids.......
IMO, if you are so concerned with kids, maybe think about a different kind of weapon? If someone doesn't know the floorplan of your house, you still have the advantage over them even with a spiked baseball bat!
We just had a home-invasion in my area 2 days ago. 3 people broke into a house and immediately attacked the owner. If your firearm is so well locked up, these guys would have got to you before you could get them (saw the security video, it was QUICK). A pistol you could reasonably carry around the house (concealed) but not a shotgun, that would be kind of bizzare.

Not trying to judge anyone's sensibilities! Just offering my point of view.

And I think a DP-12 would be a great shotgun to consider. If a perp saw a DP-12, you may not HAVE to fire it....just saying!

TorFed 03-31-2017 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by takemorepills (Post 10129700)
Where I grew up, I was around a lot of Mormon families who would raise their kinds with firearms. I believe if you are going to have a firearm in the house, the kids should know about it, how to use it and how to be safe. And they should practice often. My son is totally disinterested in our stuff because 1.) it's been around his whole life and I have taught him how to use. 2.) since it is not taboo in our home, it doesn't interest him to even pay a second thought to it. (BTW I do lock it up because we have other people around, so I don't leave our stuff easily accessible)
I only mention that because I sense a concern over firearms with kids.......
IMO, if you are so concerned with kids, maybe think about a different kind of weapon? If someone doesn't know the floorplan of your house, you still have the advantage over them even with a spiked baseball bat!
We just had a home-invasion in my area 2 days ago. 3 people broke into a house and immediately attacked the owner. If your firearm is so well locked up, these guys would have got to you before you could get them (saw the security video, it was QUICK). A pistol you could reasonably carry around the house (concealed) but not a shotgun, that would be kind of bizzare.

Not trying to judge anyone's sensibilities! Just offering my point of view.

And I think a DP-12 would be a great shotgun to consider. If a perp saw a DP-12, you may not HAVE to fire it....just saying!

That will come in at an appropriate age. 4 is not that age. I would never carry a pistol on me around the house, no need to. Most break ins here nobody is home, or perp thought nobody was home. I also have dogs.

All I am asking for is advice for safe, locking storage for a single shotgun.

Shag 03-31-2017 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by TorFed (Post 10129699)
Those could work if they had a lock. Isn't there a company similar to that that has like a magnetized lock system?

Sorry, I thought I was posting that. It's actually TacticalWalls.



Esuomm1 03-31-2017 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by TorFed (Post 10129610)
You can be an unhelpful asshole and try to spin this to a pit bull thread if you would like. Go for it.

I see to it firearms in my home are locked up at all times, loaded or not.

For those providing helpful solutions thank you.

Exactly right..

Funny, given people's responses, that punishment even exists, because it sounds like kids always do as they're told.

Good luck with the search.

Warpdrv 03-31-2017 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Shag (Post 10129727)
Sorry, I thought I was posting that. It's actually TacticalWalls.




I don't like the idea of those locks, magnetic keys type deal....

He's right there in the lighted room and has to bend over to look at where they go, what about in the middle of the night, and under duress of an intruder.... Need something faster and less obtrusive IMO....

I like the shelf and concealment, just not a fan of the operation..... Get rid of the locking mech and that would be perfect to me....

Here's a nice place to peruse some pictures to get more ideas....
https://www.pinterest.com/explore/hidden-gun-storage/

I'm sorry if you don't have Pinterest - I fought it for a long time.... I have too many friends that are photographers so I had to cave to see their shit.... :(

aubv 03-31-2017 12:49 PM

Another idea, a school hall locker. I was planning to get one to bolt into a closet and happened on a new Monster vault for $400.(CL).

TorFed 03-31-2017 12:56 PM

Right now the Hornady Rapid shotgun lock may be in the lead. I could install it a few pretty out of the way places while still being good to go in 10 sec.

Qb1rdman 03-31-2017 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by TorFed (Post 10129610)
You can be an unhelpful asshole and try to spin this to a pit bull thread if you would like. Go for it.

I see to it firearms in my home are locked up at all times, loaded or not.

For those providing helpful solutions thank you.

Sorry you found my advice unhelpful.

If you're dead set on locking up both the ammo and the gun just get a trigger lock for now. They're cheap -- or sometimes free from your local PD -- and they provide ample security if your kids are what you're worried about.

Caution: they are virtually useless when it comes to kids over ten or thieves.

TorFed 03-31-2017 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Qb1rdman (Post 10130267)
Sorry you found my advice unhelpful.

If you're dead set on locking up both the ammo and the gun just get a trigger lock for now. They're cheap -- or sometimes free from your local PD -- and they provide ample security if your kids are what you're worried about.

Caution: they are virtually useless when it comes to kids over ten or thieves.

Thanks for turning around. Not a huge fan of the trigger lock on its own. Also, I wouldn't be able to just have that as the only security and just leave a gun in the corner.

Bayou Dularge 03-31-2017 03:44 PM

+1 on getting a safe for your shotgun.


My kids are grown but my worry wasn't my kids - it was their "friends".


I also agree about not just locking the ammo - kids do dumb things.


My only suggest is get a safe large enough and fireproof enough that you can store your important docs and computer back up stuff in it also.

TorFed 03-31-2017 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Bayou Dularge (Post 10130357)
+1 on getting a safe for your shotgun.


My kids are grown but my worry wasn't my kids - it was their "friends".


I also agree about not just locking the ammo - kids do dumb things.


My only suggest is get a safe large enough and fireproof enough that you can store your important docs and computer back up stuff in it also.

I do have a large fireproof safe, but it is not in my bedroom, thus not ideal location for the shotgun. For this I just need a 1 gun secure spot. I am leaning towards the Hornady unit with a trigger guard in addition whenever the little one has friends over growing up.

Now, for the fun part, looking into this. :grin:
By the way, just got significant other approval (god bless her father being a cop/penitentiary officer)
http://www.mossberg.com/product/500-ati-tactical-50424/

Qb1rdman 03-31-2017 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by TorFed (Post 10130330)
Also, I wouldn't be able to just have that as the only security and just leave a gun in the corner.

Why not?

TorFed 03-31-2017 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Qb1rdman (Post 10130451)
Why not?

First off, it isn't me just to have a gun hanging out by the bedstand that can be picked up and have fake army played by anyone from a 10 year old to a drunk 40 year old. I prefer to have the actual firearm secured in a way it can't be carried around.

Qb1rdman 03-31-2017 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by TorFed (Post 10130510)
First off, it isn't me just to have a gun hanging out by the bedstand that can be picked up and have fake army played by anyone from a 10 year old to a drunk 40 year old. I prefer to have the actual firearm secured in a way it can't be carried around.

Gotcha. I expected something about decor, but whatever.

If you have guns in the house everyone needs to know about them (even the kids) and they need to understand that they are just tools, but they can be deadly tools.

Please don't raise the next generation of people that gets all weirded out about guns. Talk to them, let them see the guns, let them touch the guns, and let them know that they are just a tool.

Four years old is not too early.

TorFed 03-31-2017 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Qb1rdman (Post 10130562)
Gotcha. I expected something about decor, but whatever.

If you have guns in the house everyone needs to know about them (even the kids) and they need to understand that they are just tools, but they can be deadly tools.

Please don't raise the next generation of people that gets all weirded out about guns. Talk to them, let them see the guns, let them touch the guns, and let them know that they are just a tool.

Four years old is not too early.

She is aware of them. Grandpa is lifetime LEO. She knows what they are and not to be around them. I am hardly going to let her fire a 12ga or play with one, you could easilt lose a finger. She has dart gun toys that we are very strict with how they are playe dwith and used. She shoots a dog or person, time out and 30 days without that toy.


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