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Old 03-16-2017, 09:51 AM
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I remember, some time ago, watching youtube videos by The Jolly Roger Telephone Company, a guy who had programmed some AI into his computer to carry on conversations with telemarketers and internet scammers. Some of those videos are hilarious.

Today I got my first robo call from a similar piece of software. The voice on the other end identified "herself" as soliciting donations for "breast health". When I gave a non-committal response, the voice started doing the same crap I heard on those youtube videos. I played with it for a bit, got more of the kind of responses I expected. I threw in some off the wall comments, like "are you afraid you'll get breast cancer?" and "which one of your breasts are you most worried about?" and "I'm a plastic surgeon- maybe I should take a look at your breasts." That's when the responses became more random. Finally got bored and hung up.

Watch for this technology in future robocalls!
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Screwing with AI is how the machine versus humans war starts.
You are now on the machines' list.
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They also spoof local area codes. Used to know not to pick up the phone if it was an 1-800 or 1-888 number. Now I'm getting national telemarketing calls from my local area code. Ridiculous and should be illegal.
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Originally Posted by IES99 View Post
Screwing with AI is how the machine versus humans war starts.
You are now on the machines' list.
Wow! You're not kidding. And, that AI stuff is fast. I just opened our new credit card statement and there was a charge for $1600+ that neither of us recognized, from a furniture store 700 miles away. AI revenge!
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NOMORBO works well, but these bastards are figuring ways around it. Once they do I manually block their number on the handset. Sometimes i'll F-with them just for fun. I can't say here topside what I say to them, but they hang up on me


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Originally Posted by lazyboi1212 View Post
They also spoof local area codes. Used to know not to pick up the phone if it was an 1-800 or 1-888 number. Now I'm getting national telemarketing calls from my local area code. Ridiculous and should be illegal.
Yes and on my cell phone and home phone. That's BS and should be illegal.
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Which is why I don't answer any number I don't recognize. If it's someone I need to deal with, I'll return their call after I screen the voicemail.
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Which is why I don't answer any number I don't recognize. If it's someone I need to deal with, I'll return their call after I screen the voicemail.
Some of us deal with customers calling from all over the County. We don't have that luxury.
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I have these little do-hickies in my desk drawer that say different things. There is one for Arnord as the terminator, one for stallone as rocky balboa and one for beavis etc… they just say one line phrases from the movies. Things like: "I'll be back" "Yo Adrian" and "I need TP for my bunghole" Whenever I feel like screwing with a telemarketer I pull out one of those little things and let it "talk" to them. They get so confused and frustrated it is funny.
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Originally Posted by sharktripper View Post
Which is why I don't answer any number I don't recognize. If it's someone I need to deal with, I'll return their call after I screen the voicemail.
Hell, I don't ever let it ring more then twice. If I see and 800 number or a number I do not recognize from Iowa City, IA, for example, I pick up the receiver and hang up real quick. If its someone that really wants to talk to me they will call back, usually within a minute or so, then I will answer it.

What I want to know is, WTH happened with the "Do not Call List" thing? Are these scammers so smart that they disguise there number so it can't be traced, therefore don't abide by the law?

When I do get caught by one of these idiots, I let them say their pitch, then ask for their name, then their company name then a contact number so I can call them back. I usually never get to the company name part before they hang up, full well knowing why I am collecting the information.

Its getting ridiculous
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Hell, I don't ever let it ring more then twice. If I see and 800 number or a number I do not recognize from Iowa City, IA, for example, I pick up the receiver and hang up real quick. If its someone that really wants to talk to me they will call back, usually within a minute or so, then I will answer it.

What I want to know is, WTH happened with the "Do not Call List" thing? Are these scammers so smart that they disguise there number so it can't be traced, therefore don't abide by the law?

When I do get caught by one of these idiots, I let them say their pitch, then ask for their name, then their company name then a contact number so I can call them back. I usually never get to the company name part before they hang up, full well knowing why I am collecting the information.

Its getting ridiculous
That's pretty much what they do.
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When and if you talk to one of the callers avoid at all cost saying the word YES. They can record it and use it to say that you agreed to buy something.
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I hate the bastards.

Generally screen all calls, and rarely answer unless I know who it is. Occasionally I will see the same # repeatedly over a few days and they catch me in a mood.
it's not pretty then if a human is on the other end.....

First response after - "I'm on the National Do Not Call List and if you call here again I will report you", is followed by some friendly words.

Then I ask for their home number so I can call them back during their dinner time.
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Which is why I don't answer any number I don't recognize. If it's someone I need to deal with, I'll return their call after I screen the voicemail.
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Wait to you get to a real person then tell them that If they call again you will feed them to their relatives at their life remembrance.
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My business number (listed on the website of course) forwards to my cell. Never know where a customer could be calling from, so I suffer through this every day, all day. Hate it more than TV commercials. Actually considered paying he monthly fee for a service, but they probably suck.
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When and if you talk to one of the callers avoid at all cost saying the word YES. They can record it and use it to say that you agreed to buy something.
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I would love to have that happen to me. Then I would have someone to sue. The reality is you can just refuse the charge and let them fight with your credit card company.
I don't really get than many telemarketing calls because I have the ringer turned off or set at a very low volume on the only phone that rings here. They usually hang up on the machine. People who really want me either leave a message or I hear them and pick up.
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To sue, you would need to record every phone call you get to have the proof you didn't approve the charge.
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To sue, you would need to record every phone call you get to have the proof you didn't approve the charge.
Not really. I just need to get them to admit they called me in the first place. I am on the do not call list. Generally they are anonymous offshore scammers but once he starts trying to bill me, he is a person within reach of the law.
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Not really. I just need to get them to admit they called me in the first place. I am on the do not call list. Generally they are anonymous offshore scammers but once he starts trying to bill me, he is a person within reach of the law.
Good luck collecting a judgement!

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