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Old 02-27-2017, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
Pretty cold hearted

Not a fan of hers but dont want to see ANYONE die, she is a decent driver but needs to go back to open wheel racing




Heck of a move at end of race aided by low gas.


Pretty good race but not sure what all these "stages" meant, at the end all that matters is WHO crosses finish line first
Everyone get points (a pat on the back) for trying/participating has now moved to racing.
I say NO. Run your balls off and IF you WIN, then guess what, YOU are the WINNER and if you are second, you are the first LOSER.
Try again next week.


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Old 02-27-2017, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
Pretty cold hearted

Not a fan of hers but dont want to see ANYONE die, she is a decent driver but needs to go back to open wheel racing




Heck of a move at end of race aided by low gas.


Pretty good race but not sure what all these "stages" meant, at the end all that matters is WHO crosses finish line first
they don't want her back there either
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:24 AM
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I'm really starting to hate 'plate' racing. They should run the road course at Daytona. It'd be a better race. As stated earlier,,,, McMurry should hang his head in shame. I'll bet JJ has a word or two with him.
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Originally Posted by round2it View Post
Its racing but McMurray #1 went 4 wide and caused 48. to lose the aerodynamics at the end of the back straight away. He caused that pile-up.
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Jamie McMurray has single handedly wrecked 3/4 of a 43 car field. He is going to get beat with bars of soap in socks while he sleeps tonight.
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I'm really starting to hate 'plate' racing. They should run the road course at Daytona. It'd be a better race. As stated earlier,,,, McMurry should hang his head in shame. I'll bet JJ has a word or two with him.
McMurray needs to cool his jets. Lot of sheet metal ruined directly due to him. I wonder how many drivers had a "talk" with him already.

Haven't really been a fan of NASCAR for a while but do watch some races.
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You old fart.

I quit watching when Cale retired.
There was something about watching those old 7 liters running around. Technology was rapidly changing. Every season, hell every week, something new.

Now, just too sterilized. Certainly safer, though.
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 240 LTS View Post
Everyone get points (a pat on the back) for trying/participating has now moved to racing.
I say NO. Run your balls off and IF you WIN, then guess what, YOU are the WINNER and if you are second, you are the first LOSER.
Try again next week.


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NASCAR is trying to bring excitement to all parts of a race. Problem was that drivers were not running their balls off as you say. They would hang back, go on a joyride for 3/4 of a race and then race their balls off. The stages adds points and a new element of strategy.

I do not like the caution after the stages though, they should just keep running.

Also, ALL 'competition" cautions should be eliminated.
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I take a nap at most once a year, and I fell asleep during the race.

I may have missed it, but did they ever show what needed fixing during the red flag?

The long Yellows after the participation trophy interludes were ridiculous.

How does a Hendrick crew chief miss the gas mileage by that much? Were they counting on a yellow that never came?
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Originally Posted by gtpvettte View Post
I'm really starting to hate 'plate' racing. .
Hated it for years. They should either run a different/smaller engine package at Daytona and 'Dega, or go to a smaller engine for all races. I mean racing was still great when they were running around Atlanta and Darlington at 170.

I do not like the caution after the stages though, they should just keep running.
x10000.

Keep the stages, and keep racing. Or no stages. WTF were they thinking was going to happen when you intentionally bunch the field more than it already was without the intentional yellow flags.
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
Pretty cold hearted

Not a fan of hers but dont want to see ANYONE die, she is a decent driver but needs to go back to open wheel racing




Heck of a move at end of race aided by low gas.


Pretty good race but not sure what all these "stages" meant, at the end all that matters is WHO crosses finish line first
I was thinking of a graphic South Park or Team America World Police type of death. Like her car flipping over several times and she gets ejected and hit by several cars then her body hanging out of Kurt Busch's windshield as he pulls into victory lane. Then NASCAR puts the car in the museum with Danica still stuck there.

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Originally Posted by CAP1 View Post
Hated it for years. They should either run a different/smaller engine package at Daytona and 'Dega, or go to a smaller engine for all races. I mean racing was still great when they were running around Atlanta and Darlington at 170.

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Frankly the only 4 races I really watch are Daytona and Dega, I love the bunched up packs. I have heard this same comment about smaller engines, plates v no plates and while I am far from an engineer I think regardless the cars would be bunched up becuase they are all so equal this day and age.

I don't see how smaller engines/less HP would make that any different at the 2 big tracks

Kind of like what Dale Sr said years ago when someone asked him about the tight packs at 200mph. His comment was to condem about 20 rows of stand and put up a stronger fence and LET EM RIP. Never forget his comment "Well hell if a MAN does not want to run 220 mph at these 2 tracks he can take his damn foot off the gas pedal anytime he wants".
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Originally Posted by 240 LTS View Post
Everyone get points (a pat on the back) for trying/participating has now moved to racing.
I say NO. Run your balls off and IF you WIN, then guess what, YOU are the WINNER and if you are second, you are the first LOSER.
Try again next week.


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It used to be a war of attrition. Leader would be a couple laps ahead. 2nd place did NOT like getting lapped. Now, mechanical failures are rare. Just ho=hum follow the leader for 400 miles or so, then it's time to get aggressive. The only lap that matters is the last lap...the other 199 are a parade. Plus, you simply can't maintain 110% concentration for 3 hours.
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
Frankly the only 4 races I really watch are Daytona and Dega, I love the bunched up packs. I have heard this same comment about smaller engines, plates v no plates and while I am far from an engineer I think regardless the cars would be bunched up becuase they are all so equal this day and age.

I don't see how smaller engines/less HP would make that any different at the 2 big tracks

Kind of like what Dale Sr said years ago when someone asked him about the tight packs at 200mph. His comment was to condem about 20 rows of stand and put up a stronger fence and LET EM RIP. Never forget his comment "Well hell if a MAN does not want to run 220 mph at these 2 tracks he can take his damn foot off the gas pedal anytime he wants".
Well there's that.

I really only like the super speedways and larger tracks as well, having been a Bill Elliot guy back in the say. Never had any interest in short tracks.
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Quit watching when Dale died.
quit watching when the Frances took it from a traditional southern personality driven sport to a watered down, sanitized, track in every TV demographic.



Interesting article in the WSJ last week about how far down the sport has withered.
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Actually, it was at its heyday in my mind when the field would watch king richard go balls out from the green and wait for him to blow a tire- then they would know how many laps they could get out of theirs.
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I do have a question regarding finishing order with the new points system. Case in point Kevin Harvick,, crossed the checkered flag in 22nd as I recall but due to his position in the 1st and 2nd stages he's in 4th in the points or one might say he finished 4th in the race.

Is the race finishing order still determined by where you are when you cross the finish or by points accrued during the race?? Seems to me if you're going to have these stages they should count towards finishing order as well.
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Originally Posted by gtpvettte View Post
I do have a question regarding finishing order with the new points system. Case in point Kevin Harvick,, crossed the checkered flag in 22nd as I recall but due to his position in the 1st and 2nd stages he's in 4th in the points or one might say he finished 4th in the race.

Is the race finishing order still determined by where you are when you cross the finish or by points accrued during the race?? Seems to me if you're going to have these stages they should count towards finishing order as well.
Determined by where you are at the checkered flag at the end of the race. The segments are just for point standings and not for race finishing order.
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Fuel management is an integral part of racing. To finish first, first you must finish!
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