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My motor was damaged by another boater and I don't know what to accept

Old 01-29-2017, 04:47 PM
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I was on the water this weekend with a power pole down and rafted up to a buddy. While we were sitting there my motor was hit by another boat. I was in shock when it happened. I didn't want to say something to the operator of the boat that hit me. It really wasn't the time or the place. I really don't want to get into specifics yet.

I just talked to the boat owner. He kinda tried to say the damage didn't come from his boat. I said it absolutely did. I have a picture from the cockpit of my boat of his boat rubbing up against my motor. I'm not going to post those because I do not want to put the company out there at this time. He says new sticker and buff out. I don't know if that's fair. The sticker will not be where it's supposed to be. Don't know if that will look weird. Don't know if I should accept that. There's only a small spot above the sticker where the paint is messed up. If you were to put a new sticker on it 2-1/2" higher than where it's at it would cover the damage it won't be where it should be. Will I be able to see it? No. It's on the trailing edge of the motor. The backside. Will it bother me? Yes. I kinda don't know what to accept. I don't know what's fair. I don't know how far to push them. Talked to a paint and body guy yesterday as well as the Yamaha dealer where I bought the motor. Both of them said that the dark blue metallic on my cowling will be almost impossible to match for a touchup. There really isn't any way for me to be without my cowling for any more than a day because I am a full-time charter captain and cannot run my boat without the cowling on the motor. If they wanted to give me a loaner cowling to put on my motor while they paint my old cowling I think I would accept that.

The damage to the actual paint is inside the black circle. Everything else is the sticker itself.

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I wouldn't accept a jury-rigged job and would get an estimate (or 2) from reputable repair shops. I bet the engine cover needs to be painted in it's entirety and then new stickers applied. That's not a buff and sticker job.
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Have you taken the cover off yet to see if it effected the latching of the cover?

Ask for a new motor cover.

How the hell did he get so close?
Why did he get so close?
Wind pushing his boat in close?
Was he under outboard power at the time?
He was over top your PP's while they were deployed?


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How did the other boat hit yours? Were you guys shooting the breeze while both were on a power pole and the boats drifted together? Was the other boat under power?

Doesn't look that good no doubt.

Typed and posted while 240 was asking the same....
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If I choose to have it painted do I get to choose the body shop that does the work?
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How did the other boat hit yours? Were you guys shooting the breeze while both were on a power pole and the boats drifted together? Was the other boat under power?

Doesn't look that good no doubt.

Typed and posted while 240 was asking the same....
I was at anchor and he was under power. I really don't want to say a whole lot other than that. It was a event on the water open to the public.
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Understood. For auto accidents the owners involved get to select their body shops. Don't really why this would be different.
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I'd be pissed too. I'd call my insurance company and let them deal with it.
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I'd be pissed too. I'd call my insurance company and let them deal with it.
Absolutely.
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I'd be pissed too. I'd call my insurance company and let them deal with it.
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tell them you want a new cowling, and do not care where it comes from.
they can have the old one when you get the new one to do with as they please
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Btdt a few times (many damaged cowlings on charter boats - one time I was hit so hard it broke the trim/tilt too).

Someone is about to get a VERY expensive lesson in cowling repair/replacement costs as well as yamaha decal costs.

There is no getting around the fact that this is going to be almost unbelievably expensive for what it is.

So, know that going in.

If you can't somehow get yourself into a "loaner cowling" then:

Get a couple estimates for repair and a couple for replacement. Let them pay you the money for one of the lower estimates (at a pro shop that you will be satisfied with).

Let them know you may have to be out X number of days of your business at $Y/per day.

That may make a new cowling seem more attractive.

Otherwise you could let them pay for the repair NOW and just hold the money. You might clean it up best you can and pocket the money, or hold the money for a slow time in your biz and have it repaired then.

The loss of use in your case will likely exceed the repair so it's a funky spot to be in.

But 100% they are on the hook for it and they are gonna shit when they find out what cowlings, and their associated decals cost!

Good luck and hide the matches from yourself for a while

PS you need to make sure you don't have any mandatory reporting requirements with the USCG (it will depend on a few circumstances of the COLLISSION).
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You are no way out of line insisting on full repair. Paint or new cover, whatever is cheapest would be kind. Your choice of where and when, it's your business vehicle.
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Check out these guys for a quote:

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boat-com...nishing.html#b
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Isn't your advice to everyone to burn something down?

Well, here's your chance.....
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I don't think it's unreasonable to have your cowling replaced. I can't imagine it would be more than 1k.
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Needs paint, which means you will need to replace every sticker to do it right. If he doesn't want to pay, go to your insurance company. I'm guessing not police report, so you may be screwed if he doesn't cooperate.

Was this at Gasparilla?
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I was at anchor and he was under power. I really don't want to say a whole lot other than that. It was a event on the water open to the public.
Does he have insurance?
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Originally Posted by baker2605 View Post
I don't think it's unreasonable to have your cowling replaced. I can't imagine it would be more than 1k.


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I'll tell you, I had a similar incident in the keys with a F%^ing owner who claim we hit his boat.

We were trying to dock and lost control due to strong current on a marina right on a channel under US1 in Marahton. We basically came close from his Port side, and we push back from a piling on the dock. Owner was not present, but dock guys from marina was his buddy, nothing happened to the boat as we never touched the boat, but I took pictures anyway.

Owner calls me to say there is damage to his boat, I said no way. Anyway he filed a report with FWC and took me to court.

Basically he had a crack on the outboard cowling on the starboard side, and we approached from the port side. I explained to him and the court mediator that how is possible to approach from port and not damage port side before damaging starboard side. Short story, mediator tells me she believes me, but I'll have to bring a photo expert and bla bla. I said fuck it, I'll pay this F%^er for no reason and be done. The funny part is left check with my buddy in marathon for said fucker to bring old cowling and pick up check, on his way out he went to grab the cracked cowling since "we were not doing much with it", my buddy said, fuck you and grabbed a hammer and smashed to pieces and gave it back, lol. Needless to say he left it behind.

Short story is, making pay or file report with FWC.

Sorry for derailing.
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