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Old 01-10-2017, 05:31 AM
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Just seen this thought it was interesting. Might not even be true but figured some of you guys that are up there could shed a little more light on the subject.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/07...rush-hour.html
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:55 AM
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Virginia is north?
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And you know there is plenty enough dumb-asses willing to pay for it.....that's where the problem lies. And someone in the office is going to be saying we didn't set the price high enough, we could have gone $40.
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sounds like price gouging to me if they can charge anything they want and increase when problems show up.

I thought anything above Dallas Tx was north
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One more tax for the working guy.
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Virginia is north?

Yes. I don't even think North Carolina is considered a southern state anymore
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Yes. I don't even think North Carolina is considered a southern state anymore
Wow, no one told us, I don't think we see it that way.
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Originally Posted by Mofugga View Post
Yes. I don't even think North Carolina is considered a southern state anymore
Wrong.

Aside from Wake and Mecklenburg counties, NC is very much Old South.

Virginia should be divided up into two states though.

Edit: also reading the article, that's the exact same sort of BS the northerners bring down here which we hate. (Ahem...NC 540 and its ever increasing tolls...Lookin at you).
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Originally Posted by NCSUboater View Post
Wrong.

Aside from Wake and Mecklenburg counties, NC is very much Old South.

Virginia should be divided up into two states though.
Seems to me both states have been over run by liberals that screwed up their home states, NJ etc. Same thing is happening here in Florida
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Originally Posted by Mofugga View Post
Seems to me both states have been over run by liberals that screwed up their home states, NJ etc. Same thing is happening here in Florida
It is an issue for sure, I wouldn't say overrun though (yet). In the triangle, Charlotte, and Wilmington - absolutely.

In Raleigh, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone with a southern accent, and every day I see multiple cars with "Jersey Girl" or "Home" in the shape of NY on them. If those states are so great, I will gladly assist all these homesick Yankees in finding Interstate 95 North. Hell, the DOT tried to make it easier with the 495 spur that runs all the way into Raleigh.
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Originally Posted by Boat Bum View Post
Virginia is north?
North of Carolina. SHOW NUFF.

You got South Carolina then North Carolina. Wheres VA.? Sorry buddy,,, You's up there...

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sounds like price gouging to me if they can charge anything they want and increase when problems show up.

I thought anything above Dallas Tx was north
TX ain't north or South. You's just over yonder. AKA Be's in the middle. LOL




For the record once you pass Fredericksburg VA north bound the world changes. Those that are between Fredericksburg and the NC State line we just call. HOLDING/ still deciding. .!! LOL

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I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who has to pay $30 for a toll. Liveaboard, do you even remember how long its been since you could get into New York in your truck for less than $30? Its been a few years since I have been in the NY/NJ/DE area, but as I understand it, some of the bridges now cost $150 to cross. A measly 30 bucks? Please.
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Originally Posted by Boat Bum View Post
Wow, no one told us, I don't think we see it that way.
Tough one. The south in my mind is anything south of Raleigh and north of Atlanta. Maybe add in Texas too.

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The south, to me, begins in Richmond and ends somewhere between Savannah and Jacksonville, then continues over to west of Baton Rouge at the Texas border, and northward again to encompass all of Tennessee and parts of Kentucky (any state that's main export is bourbon has to be Southern).

There have been many articles written on the matter.
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Keep in mind, I-95 is free in VA. You are paying for the privilege of using express lanes. $30 is nuts, but if you have ever sat in traffic in northern VA, you would gladly pay $30 to get moving. I once spent 3 hours going 30 miles on I-95. To the best of my knowledge, there was no accident or construction, just too much traffic. I used to hate the beltway around DC, seems now I never have a problem till hitting northern VA.
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I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who has to pay $30 for a toll. Liveaboard, do you even remember how long its been since you could get into New York in your truck for less than $30? Its been a few years since I have been in the NY/NJ/DE area, but as I understand it, some of the bridges now cost $150 to cross. A measly 30 bucks? Please.
The bridge getting into Del cost almost 40 dollars now. I ran funiture up there two trips a week back in the early 80s. Back then you could run up there for that those days are long gone.

You can still get off 495 at the 19 MM route 50 run out cross the chesapeake go up the old way miss a few tolls but I'm sure those will be rising soon with DC playing these 30 dollars a pop games.

Starting a job next week out of Petersburg NC VA only. NO DC. I'm tickled with that. Once in a while will have to run to MD to pick up a load but Fredicksburg is about as far north as we deliver to. Md units come back down into southern VA and NC. Reeling it in, closer to home.

For the record guys I pick and play with you guys up north and have a blast with the southern lingo on here and in person but don't have one issue with you guys up there would not bother me at all to have any of you as neighbors. . War ended before I was born as far as i'm concerned. Just to much headaches like what this thread is about living up there. Feel for you guys on that issue.

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As someone who was born and raised in VA and lived there until a few years ago, MOST of VA is still the south...but it is changing...

There are (or at least there were) some specific rules that would increase or decrease the toll for some of these "Express" lanes. I know it dealt with the quantity of traffic, but that's about all I can remember. And yes, there will always be people willing to pay to avoid traffic. I spent my first few months of NC residency commuting back and forth to my job in Northern VA and weekends in NC. I took a portion of the express lanes on two different occasions for significantly less $$ than listed and it saved me about 30 minutes each time I did it. On those occasions, the <$5 I paid was definitely worth it.

That said, the tolls were getting WAY out of hand and there was no indication they were going to go any direction other than higher...We are SOOOOOO happy to be away from that area and very pleased with our new area!
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As someone who was born and raised in VA and lived there until a few years ago, MOST of VA is still the south...but it is changing...

There are (or at least there were) some specific rules that would increase or decrease the toll for some of these "Express" lanes. I know it dealt with the quantity of traffic, but that's about all I can remember. And yes, there will always be people willing to pay to avoid traffic. I spent my first few months of NC residency commuting back and forth to my job in Northern VA and weekends in NC. I took a portion of the express lanes on two different occasions for significantly less $$ than listed and it saved me about 30 minutes each time I did it. On those occasions, the <$5 I paid was definitely worth it.

That said, the tolls were getting WAY out of hand and there was no indication they were going to go any direction other than higher...We are SOOOOOO happy to be away from that area and very pleased with our new area!
Turtle. You mentioned the cost .. Last ticket I got was back in Sept.
Before then finished all the construction around DC we were allowed to go in the HOV lanes with EZpass. I had not run up there almost none after they finished it they changed the rules not trucks can't go in the HOV lanes at all now. . Fell out there on 495 west headed to 66 traffic was dead stopped seen that HOV,, ZOOM......here I go. and here he came............LOL 198 dollars big truck in the hov lane and they still got paid with prepass. SOME BEACH...........

Their about ready to open the new bridge up 17 north out of Carolina to get on 64 in Chesapeake have the transducers already in place for the tolls. GF does not go that way to work but i'm wondering just how much that new beauty is going to be to cross that new bridge. Working out of Petersburg i'll back way it to Suffolk then up 460 so i'll miss it all now. Job I was with before Christmas out of NewPort News i'd hit that bridge every time I came home or went back to work. its really made a difference in speed coming through there but I'm sure the finial outcome will be costly. Welcome to VA. LOL
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Originally Posted by NCSUboater View Post
Wrong.

Aside from Wake and Mecklenburg counties, NC is very much Old South.

Virginia should be divided up into two states though.

Edit: also reading the article, that's the exact same sort of BS the northerners bring down here which we hate. (Ahem...NC 540 and its ever increasing tolls...Lookin at you).
The same could be said for every state in New England. The cities are all fd up and the rural areas are the taxpayers.
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I don't know of any $30 tolls for cars in the NY metro area "up north". The Verrazano is $16 if you don't have EZPass, but that's a one way toll so really covers two trips.

While I realize there is a moral hazard to letting the government or an associated agency charge as much as they think they can get, aren't there times you are in traffic that you would happily peel out a 20 or two to make most around you disappear? I can think of many times I'd have been happy to do that.

In a sane world, those exorbitant tolls would go to build more roads, unfortunately we live in the other kind of world.
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