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Old 12-29-2016, 07:49 PM
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What do you guys think? My family is growing and I need to trade my truck for a capable suv... Other recommendations are welcome I like the Tahoe/Yukon but hate the wimpy 5.3L engine and don't want to pay Denali money to get the bigger engine.
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Originally Posted by Jstarion View Post
What do you guys think? My family is growing and I need to trade my truck for a capable suv... Other recommendations are welcome I like the Tahoe/Yukon but hate the wimpy 5.3L engine and don't want to pay Denali money to get the bigger engine.
I think it would do fine for your needs with the egobeast 6(hack, hack, can't believe I said that).
But, I thought there was an option for the 6.2 in either the Tahoe or the Yukon without going Denali or LTZ?
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I think it would do fine for your needs with the egobeast 6(hack, hack, can't believe I said that).
But, I thought there was an option for the 6.2 in either the Tahoe or the Yukon without going Denali or LTZ?
The 6.2 is unfortunately limited to the Escalade and Denali. OP, what kind of weight is your typical tow? The 5.3 isn't really wimpy, but does need to be matched with the proper ratio rear end to tow well.

Overall your main objective needs to be to determine whether day today fuel economy is more important, or towing performance. I would highly recommend looking at either the expedition XL or The suburban length vehicles, as they ride a lot better, especially when hooked to a trailer. If nothing else, at least test drive one. Everyone always makes the assumption that they are a bear to park, but that is not the case (especially if you are accustomed to driving a full-size pick up). The main thing I hate about the Tahoe sized SUVs is that with a third row seat there is zero space for luggage if you don't use a rooftop carrier.

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If your growing family is more than 4, get 2nd row captain chairs for easy access to the 3rd row. I'm on my 2nd Expedition and l'm overall pleased. Tows 17ft aluminum boat when loaded with ease.
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I've had a 2012 EL Limited for 3 years now, and I love it. I replaced a 2001 Expedition Eddie Bauer that I bought in 2001.

FYI, 2014 was the last year with the 5.4L V8....if it matters.
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I have a 2007 EL with 100800 miles. I tow a small 18 foot CC and I love it. I get 12mpg towing and 21mpg highway
Previous vehicles were Denali Yukons.
I prefer the Ford.
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The smaller SUVs generally have a 5K tow max and the upper end can push them around. Now I have hauled a car on a trailer behind my small SUV. But with the growing family, I would spring for the Expedition.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
The 6.2 is unfortunately limited to the Escalade and Denali. OP, what kind of weight is your typical tow? The 5.3 isn't really wimpy, but does need to be matched with the proper ratio rear end to tow well.

Overall your main objective needs to be to determine whether day today fuel economy is more important, or towing performance. I would highly recommend looking at either the expedition XL or The suburban length vehicles, as they ride a lot better, especially when hooked to a trailer. If nothing else, at least test drive one. Everyone always makes the assumption that they are a bear to park, but that is not the case (especially if you are accustomed to driving a full-size pick up). The main thing I hate about the Tahoe sized SUVs is that with a third row seat there is zero space for luggage if you don't use a rooftop carrier.
Boat motor and trailer between 4 and 5k wet and loaded. I know I could tow it with a smaller rig but I'm used to my full size truck and want something comparable and don't give two squirts of duck shit about fuel economy as I only drive between 5 and 10k miles per year. I had a Toyota 4Runner in the past that I towed a similar sized boat with and it was squirly with the short wheelbase...
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We have two Expeditions, and they've been great (three kids, dog and trailered boat).
- Towing: our EL trailers better and I thought the regular size Expedition was a great tow vehicle (3500lbs of boat and trailer we haul from NC to the Keys and Canada). We've liked the 5.4 engine but from what I've read the new one beats it for towing and mileage.
- reliability: both have been good. The first one is actually an '01 with 180k miles. Wife has asked for years for me to get rid of it but I like having an old extra vehicle to throw junk into
- Space: EL obviously has the advantage. With kids, having space behind the third row is nice. For boating, I have plenty of space, with the second row in use, for my trolling motor, rods, extra junk. Really makes things easier.
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The wimpy GM 5.3L will do you fine with that kind of weight. Ask me how I know....
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Boat motor and trailer between 4 and 5k wet and loaded. I know I could tow it with a smaller rig but I'm used to my full size truck and want something comparable and don't give two squirts of duck shit about fuel economy as I only drive between 5 and 10k miles per year. I had a Toyota 4Runner in the past that I towed a similar sized boat with and it was squirly with the short wheelbase...
You should be good. Not telling you to buy a suburban/gmc specifically, just don't rule them out. They are great vehicles. The Expedition EL with the ecoboost does look very tempting though if I were in the market.

My dad is on his 4'th suburban, and my grandfather always had one before he did. I swap trucks with him all the time. Nearly all of my/his buddies drive tahoes. They pull like shit when compared to the suburban. Wheelbase is where it's at for a good ride. Quite a few have moved to a suburban/long expedition once they rode in one, but gave them no consideration before doing so. I don't get it at all. When my dad recently bought his, he test drove a slighly used one with the max tow package on it. Thing was very strong. He ended up buying a new one with a tall gear in it (good deal), but he rarely tows and can use mine or my brothers trucks anytime he needs to, so it was a non-issue for him.
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The wimpy GM 5.3L will do you fine with that kind of weight. Ask me how I know....
I know it would be fine. I just don't like that drive train package. I have rented about a dozen of them and like every thing about them except that they are sluggish (I suspect they are trying for best mpg in the shift mapping) and you have to put the accelerator to the floor to pass. If i could get one with the bigger engine it would be a no brainier.
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I know it would be fine. I just don't like that drive train package. I have rented about a dozen of them and like every thing about them except that they are sluggish (I suspect they are trying for best mpg in the shift mapping) and you have to put the accelerator to the floor to pass. If i could get one with the bigger engine it would be a no brainier.
I'm going to guess that the rentals were all the tall gear. Just for comparison sake, test drive one with the max tow package. Totally different experience.
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Originally Posted by Jstarion View Post
I know it would be fine. I just don't like that drive train package. I have rented about a dozen of them and like every thing about them except that they are sluggish (I suspect they are trying for best mpg in the shift mapping) and you have to put the accelerator to the floor to pass. If i could get one with the bigger engine it would be a no brainier.
I tuned mine to shift harder and adjusted the shift points. Also tuned to premium. Better off the line but going uphill without much momentum still sucks. My boat i pushing 6k though. Should be better towing experience for you. Look into used 3/4 ton is usually my recommendation but with your weight, its not necessary.
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You buying new, or looking for a used SUV? How big is the family? On the cheap, tough to beat a V10 Excursion for capable and roomy. Decent ones can be had for under $10k.

We really enjoy ours.
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I tuned mine to shift harder and adjusted the shift points. Also tuned to premium. Better off the line but going uphill without much momentum still sucks. My boat i pushing 6k though. Should be better towing experience for you. Look into used 3/4 ton is usually my recommendation but with your weight, its not necessary.
I have a '12 Yukon completely loaded out with 4X4, and the drive train drives me crazy.


When cruising at 60 with cruise control set it seems to lag/slip very slightly....also when you go to pass instead of dropping 1 gear it will occasionally drop two for no reason and over rev.

Didn't mean to derail the thread, just didn't know if there were some tricks that I don't know about yet. I'm scheduled for a full transmission service to see if I can get it cleaned up before I make a long road trip next month.
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I think the model year 2016 Expeditions are pretty old and crappy looking myself. They are based on a much older model year F150. I know they are getting ready to release the newest one in the coming year I believe.
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We had a 2005 expedition with the 5.4 that we sold at 240000 miles, it was still running strong. They are very reliable cars
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My Expedition is a piece of crap. Its a 07 model.

How about a sequoia?
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Bought a 2010 Expedition EL this spring and we love it. Traded a 98 Expedition XLT.

The room behind the third was a must for us, even bigger now that a 4th boy is on the way, It tows my 17ft Aluminum great. Couldn't be happier. Similar Suburbans were at least 5K higher at the time around here. My 98 was great and so is this one.
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