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Old 12-23-2016, 04:08 PM
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I heard it in a couple places. One of which is here:http:// frogcars.com/2017-toyota*tundra/
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Old 12-23-2016, 04:10 PM
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If link doesn't work then google it and it will come up
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Old 12-23-2016, 04:11 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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Old 12-23-2016, 04:17 PM
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I got a cousin who works at a Toyota dealership, I'll ask him.
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I'd pay dearly for a diesel Tacoma 4 door. AKA Hi Lux in most parts of the world.
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Old 12-23-2016, 04:48 PM
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I've heard that the Cummins diesel going into Nissan's trucks is again slated to go in the full size Toyota pickup. It was originally a Cummins/Toyota joint project that fell through.

Cummins spent a fortune designing, engineering and on manpower to build that engine. I would think that they cut a deal with Nissan that they couldn't refuse as Nissan's 1/2 ton truck was also being redesigned at the same time. They had to do something with Ford's F150 outselling Nissan's pickups by over 50:1.

On paper, the engine sounds good. It'd be a nice powerplant in either the Nissan or Toyota pickups. But is the increased fuel mileage going to payoff in the increased price of the diesel. To start with, they're only coming in the most expensive trim trucks.
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It doesn't appear that the fuel economy of the cummins diesel in the titan is all the impressive.

https://www.edmunds.com/nissan/titan...my-so-far.html
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Bottom line is going to be towing capacity. Anyone have numbers on that?
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It would still be a Japanese truck though!


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I heard it in a couple places. One of which is here:http:// frogcars.com/2017-toyota*tundra/
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Old 12-23-2016, 05:19 PM
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I'm not sure but are not tundra parts made in us and Canada? I like Ford but the cheap metal from china has been a nightmare of alignment problems in doors
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Lots of speculation in that article and most of it based on market models slated for outside the US. Concenus among the most studied Tundra fans is that the 2018 models will get a slight exterior upgrade with advanced electronic safety upgrades like passive emergency braking with forward looking sensor that are already available in other current Toyota model cars. Power enhancements are expected to be made to the current 5.7 by adding direct port injection increasing hp slightly and improve fuel economy. The transmission will be upgraded from the 6 to the 8 speed.

The Cummings option seems to be strictly speculative at best and most are expecting that move to come in 2021 but demand may drive an earlier appearance. Right now the diesel performance in the Nissan isn't standing out as a super performer compared to their 5.8 gasser in towing nor is it providing any huge gains in mpg in recent testing. This may be a deciding factor on whether Toyota follows the push to go that direction in the near future.
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I'm not sure but are not tundra parts made in us and Canada? I like Ford but the cheap metal from china has been a nightmare of alignment problems in doors
maybe if the beer drinkers would stop throwing their cig buts in the empty cans and recycling them the aluminum would be better
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I cannot believe that diesel is still on everyones list with the common rail and dif fluid and all the problems that go with it . Oh did I SAY almost double that of gas please.....
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It would still be a Japanese truck though!
Is that worse than a Mexican truck?
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I don't see Toyota partnering with anyone to build a diesel- they've had extremely reliable in-house diesels since the 1960s, and have their own medium truck subsidiary (Hino).

If they decide the US truck market will support a diesel they'll put one in, likely sourced from one of their existing international platforms. But I don't think it's likely to happen.
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You figure Toyo loses every 250 or 2500 series sale, so it makes sense.
Will be interesting to see, especially since I'll be in the market for a new truck soon.
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IBut is the increased fuel mileage going to payoff in the increased price of the diesel.
Fifteen years ago when diesel was 10 - 15 - 20 cents lower per liter than gas it was much easier to justify the extra cost of buying a diesel engine, but today I don't know how I would justify the addition 8k bill?
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
Fifteen years ago when diesel was 10 - 15 - 20 cents lower per liter than gas it was much easier to justify the extra cost of buying a diesel engine, but today I don't know how I would justify the addition 8k bill?
I agree Garret but here in central Florida it seems owning a 3/4 or larger 4x4 diesel truck is standard issue not including the 10k in mods. I would say half of those who own them don't even have anything to tow.
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I cannot believe that diesel is still on everyones list with the common rail and dif fluid and all the problems that go with it . Oh did I SAY almost double that of gas please.....
What? "DIF" fluid? Not to sound rude, but you clearly have no need for a diesel, and know nothing about them. I agree there are people who just want a diesel, and that fine. For those that NEED a diesel, there is really no substitute. As far as your comment about "double that of gas" , you are incorrect if you are speaking about fuel price, or vehicle price.
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