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Almost...like .02 seconds from having to shoot a guy last night....

Old 12-01-2016, 07:31 AM
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Default Almost...like .02 seconds from having to shoot a guy last night....

Ugh what a situation for sure. We all say "well I would have done.......(you fill here)" but I tell you what, until you're in that situation, you DONT know what you would do I can rest assure you that! As Mike Tyson once said "everyone has a plan, until you get hit".

Anyway moving forward with my story.... at 8:30pm-ish after my grandfathers funeral(go figure) I stopped in the little store about a 1/4 of a mile form my home to stop and get a couple things. As I walked through the door there were 2 kids....21ish range.... at the counter talking to the clerk making small talk and being obnoxious to the clerk. It was obvious they were drunk. I grabbed what I needed and as I walked to the counter they left and the clerk said "I'm glad they're gone", I chuckled and didn't think twice about it and headed home. Little did I know at that point, I'd be seeing them again later.

Its a nice night here about 65 deg so we had the front window open and we hear 2 obnoxious people outside. This isn't that uncommon because we live a few miles from the Virginia Beach Oceanfront/bars and at times people will walk home after drinking. Normally you hear them, they walk by and thats it, but that was not the case here. They went back and forth about 2-3 times. At this point I'm thinking they are trying to break in something. So we turn out the lights and my wife goes to the front window to see what they're up to. She says to me "hey they are at your truck and walking to the house under the carport". I say a few choice words, grab the loaded 12g and my .45, hand her the phone and say "call the cops". Our bedroom is on the second floor and we have a rear exit out of the house, so I open the back door round the side of the house upstairs and see him by my truck, so I VERY LOUDLY rack the 870p(shotgun) and he takes off in a fast pace down the street. I think thats the end of it, I scared him off, so I walk down the stairs, post up where I can see my truck over the 5ft fence and all is quiet. All this time I knew cops were on the way and just hoped they would pick them up.

Thought it was all over with at this point honestly. After 2-3 minutes I figured I'd walk to the front of the house and the front yard to see if I could see anything. As I round the front of the house my wife says "that guy is next door" which just so happens to be my first cousin's house. At this point I had had enough and took off to go help him because I knew it was 2 of them. As I get to this yard I lay the 870 on the west side of the house because I knew they were on the East side, and uncover(not pull) my .45 from my waistline with my hand resting on my gun ready to pull and fire because I seen my cousin and him were in a minor scuffle. As I got closer the scuffle just consisted of my cousin kind of pushing the tool bag away from him saying "man you really need to back up" and the other guy could barely even stand from being so damn drunk. All he kept saying was "I'm trying to get home, I don't know you but give me a hug" and trying to get close to my cousin. As I got even closer I noticed he had a knife in his waistline and this is when it got hairy because if you've ever taken any kind of self defense class, you know that that's wayyyyy entirely too close even with a knife. I pull my firearm out of the lock position, finger on side of trigger resting and telling myself I can not believe there is a good chance I'm getting ready to have to shoot someone, I just can't believe it, not me! My cousin says to him "why do you have a knife man, you can't even stand up, and you're making me really nervous".....his reply was "so I can defend myself"...little did he know, he had literally brought a knife to a gunfight. Then he said a haunting thing which was almost his last words out of his mouth of his life "you want to see it..?..." I yelled "DO NOT TOUCH THAT F%&*KING KNIFE!!!! IT WILL BE YOUR LAST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE"(at this point my gun is 3/4 the way out of holster) he immediately tossed his hands up and said "ok ok I just wanted to show it to you"...need I remind you, this whole time we were within arms length of one another. Just at that second, here comes the cops breaking the corner. I felt like a 1,000lbs just got lifted off my chest to see the boys in blue roll up. I locked my weapon back in my holster and tried to gather my thoughts and thought and said to my cousin "holly sh*t" that almost got REALLY REALLY bad!!!!

As the cop exits his car, he starts to try and waddle his way kind of out of the yard and down the street. So remember me telling you there was 2 of them...?.. , his buddy the whole time just stayed in the street not trying to assist in getting his buddy out of there or anything. He was doing 1 of 2 things. A: Either taping us so he can become a new internet fame on "world star" or live leak or B: Which scares me the most, standing there with a gun himself waiting to act against us. Honestly it was probably option B because as soon as the cops pull up, he takes off down the street on his bike not wanting to be a part of it AT ALL! Not judging anyones character, but they were both "thug boys" and carried themselves in that manner, saggy pants and all. Want to hear the worst part....as we're talking to the cops and this is NOT like VB cops at all....but they put him in the cop car and say to us "hey thanks for calling, he's drunk and we're going to take him home to his parents". This is when I'm . I say to the cop "I about just shot this kid and you're not even going to get him for drunk in public when he was a weapon..?!" he says no and if his parents aren't home then he'll take him to jail and he gets in his car. If this had been me, I'd be tossed under the damn jail! Anyway....

Honestly...the kid had to of been 21 years old at least because if he wasn't, he would have went for at least drinking of a minor. But that kid must have had connections or something because that just don't happen like that around here. Dad or bother or someone he knew, knew somebody. But you know what......he's the cop and its up to him even tho I do not agree with him at all! All in all...... I/you see things like the protestors standing in the street and you saying "I'd run them over" or a video of something and how you would have handled it, and I'm that guy that honestly, and I'm guilty of that 1000% hands down! But you know what....until you're in a situation like that, you don't know how you will respond. I'm just glad I didn't have to shoot anyone even tho I was prepared to do such. When that kid wakes up this morning, he does NOT know how lucky he is to be alive because if he had actually touched that knife when he said "you want to see it" I would have been forced to do the unthinkable. He does NOT know how lucky he is to be alive this morning!
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Old 12-01-2016, 07:38 AM
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scary encounter. hope im never put in that position.
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Old 12-01-2016, 08:04 AM
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I've been there... really glad you didn't have to shoot anyone. You reacted like 99% of people would have. It's crazy how slow those few seconds go. I've had mine drawn on someone riding the trigger, lucky for the both of us he turned and ran away not towards me.

I thought I was going to have to pull it again last week at the gas station. Some asshole tried to cut me off while I was pulling up to the pump. I had the clear right of way, and just continued on my path. He backed up, pealed out around me and stopped and got out of the car and walked towards me cursing and throwing his hands up. I paused, and watched him before getting out of my truck. I guess he decided I was too big and he turned around and went about his buisness still cursing under his breath.
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Old 12-01-2016, 09:18 AM
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Great restraint. I'm glad everything worked out for you and your cousin. Having said that please don't ever abandon your weapon. What if you would of gotten into a gun fight and the other perp took off and stumbled upon the gun and decided to help his buddy? I know it's easy to be a armchair quarterback. But good work on protecting you and your cousin
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Personally, I would have armed up and called the police....but I wouldn't have gone outside.
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Big Al is going to poop a brick when he wakes up and reads that he almost got himself shot last night.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:03 AM
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not sure which is more scary. What the drunk guy did or how nonchalant the cop was.

Glad you and family are ok.
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Originally Posted by trout25red View Post
Big Al is going to poop a brick when he wakes up and reads that he almost got himself shot last night.


Good thing the cops got him home before any real damage was done
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Originally Posted by cedarholm View Post
Personally, I would have armed up and called the police....but I wouldn't have gone outside.
Yep. It's amazing how much trouble one can find when they go looking for it.
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Those aren't the VB cops I know. I bet if the kid was in the military they would have thrown the book at him.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:31 AM
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1st, 2nd and 3rd. glad you're OK.
Now, about laying that gun down... I know these situations are fluid, not scripted, but... WTF?
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cedarholm View Post
Personally, I would have armed up and called the police....but I wouldn't have gone outside.
Exactly. Absolutely no reason to confront someone in that situation at which point you did. Dial 911, if law enforcement hasn't showed up by the time you feel that you or your family are in grave danger then you act. Property can be replaced, your life can't. Way to many cowboys running around today.
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Originally Posted by cedarholm View Post
Personally, I would have armed up and called the police....but I wouldn't have gone outside.
This. ^^^^^ BUT also glad you were there for your cousin
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This. ^^^^^ BUT also glad you were there for your cousin
This.
Others seem to have forgot about the cousin.
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Just curious, you left the shotgun on the side of your house when you walked to cousins? woulda gave that to my wife. other than that smart thinkin.
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Speaking of a long gun, perfect example why all long guns should have a sling. Even if just military rip cord but cheap slings are pretty accessible... just sling it around your back next time as you transition to your handgun..
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This.
Others seem to have forgot about the cousin.
I didn't forget and once again, why did the cousin outside?
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I didn't forget and once again, why did the cousin outside?
Who knows why the cousin was outside(if that was what you were asking)? The fact is; he was and was in need of assistance.
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you need to invest in a quality gun safe immediately and place all but one or two guns in it

you need to review your exterior lighting, consider some video, look over all your doors for weakness and most of all you probably need to sleep lightly

losers like this are trouble looking for a place to get in trouble

they now know you have guns and there is a good chance they will remember that and consider it next time they are out and about doing what they do

they clearly don't care about a damn thing hell you ran them off and they just went NEXT DOOR

and there is no "oh they were drunk and did not know what they were doing"

I doubt they were even that drunk and probably have been let off multiple times before on the "oh they are just drunk creeping into the private area of your yard with a knife and not leaving when confronted" before

I would be calling the chief of police to tear into him and I would contact the DA as well to see if there are any charges

these yoof are a classic case of "need to get them in the system so we can keep ringing them up before they kill someone"
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Yeah was a mess for sure. To answer a couple questions, the gun left behind.... it was in The path in where the wife was right behind me. It was there for my wife as she was 2 seconds behind me(she knows her way around a firearm, she's a hell of a shot with a AR). Second, my cousin was outside because wife was on her phone telling him what was going on at that time in which the drunk guy had seemed to be trying to get inside of his front door. At that time is when I broke corner. As many have said "dont go outside", I wouldn't change that and am glad I did. I was prepared to protect my family, not property.
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