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Old 11-23-2016, 09:28 PM
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Help me identify this aircraft. This is the only picture I have.


This Cessna belonged to my grandfather in the late sixties. I have always known that he owned an airplane and I finally got my uncle to find a picture of it.

My grandfather passed away in 1972, (I was six at the time.) and no one in my family was ever able to tell me what happened to it. He lived in Mansfield, Ohio when he owned it. It may still be in central Ohio.

I was hoping to get a tail number for it but this was during the years that they had the numbers painted on the wing. If I could get the tail number I could see if it is still flying today.

I'm pretty sure that it's not a 172, but not sure which other model it could be.

So here is my bucket list idea- Find this airplane. Buy it from it's current owner. Get it shined back up and start exploring the US in it!

I have my private license with instrument rating. Many years out of date but could refresh quickly.

I thought I'd run this by the THT aviators to see if you all could help point me in the right direction.

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Old 11-23-2016, 09:55 PM
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Cessna 182 Skylane with its baggage door open.
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Old 11-24-2016, 03:10 AM
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I don't know if you're in Ohio and it's a long shot but try to find out what airport he kept it at in the Mansfield area. The smaller airports in that area (and everywhere else) are a treasure trove of info, characters, and fun.

Some of the best times I ever had at an airport were about 30-40 miles east of Mansfield at Portage County Airport. We used to have a mini Cleveland gran prix there.

I still know a lot of people in the area, let me know if I can help.
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Old 11-24-2016, 04:06 AM
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Old 11-24-2016, 04:18 AM
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Yes, a 182. Nice paint job, too.

Sorry, I can't help with your search but wishing you the best of luck with it.


A few years back, I was restoring an old British TR6 and happened to find a very weathered invoice for some repair-parts wedged behind the glove-box. Contacted the parts mfgr and explained that I wanted to get in touch with the previous owner, and surprisingly they helped me with an address/phone number from their files.
The owner had died quite awhile ago, but the daughter was overjoyed to learn that her Dad's legacy was still living-on. She mailed me some photos of the car and more parts receipts.

Made both of us feel really good. Hope your search is as fruitful!
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Old 11-24-2016, 04:33 AM
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If you do get the N# put them here

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...m_Inquiry.aspx
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Agree, 182 Skylane. I got my license in '67, and that was one of my favorites.
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Old 11-24-2016, 05:32 AM
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You should try posting this on pilots of america, barnstormers etc you never know . . .

I'm not a 182 guy but on those boards I'd bet they can narrow down the year model by looking at it.

That might help in your search.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if a call to Oklahoma City with some info wouldn't get results.

Good luck
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Old 11-24-2016, 05:51 AM
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It would be great if it was a 182. I have always wanted one. For some reason though my uncle said that he didn't think it was a 182. He may just be guessing though.

The airport was almost certainly Mansfield Lahm,in Mansfield , Ohio. I worked at the FBO there when I was 18 after I got my private pilot certificate.

If I had known to be curious about the airplane then, I'm sure I could have gotten a treasure trove of info! Hell, if it was still there I may have even fueled it at some point!

I got my first flight physical from a doctor in Mansfield that was friends with my grandfather. I remember him telling me that he missed him. Another lost opportunity when I look back on it now. I even remember fueling Dr. Massey's Cessna. It was the one with an engine in the front and one between the tail booms! I'm sure he would have known the aircraft ID.
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Wow.. Nice find with the picture. I hope you're able to pull that all off, what an amazing tribute and adventure!

That's a 1960 or newer 182. Looks a little stocky to be a 175. That was the year they went from the straight tail to the swept tail on the 182. There are a lot of little things people on the aviation forums will be able to spot that will help narrow down the year. Landing light placement, etc. As said earlier, find the airport it was kept at and start asking around. You may be surprised of the info the old airport bums (I say that with affection) that hang around airports have.

Some more data on the type..

http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%...%20Skylane.htm

Very capable airplane as well. Good luck with the search!
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Old 11-24-2016, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Cat Tales MHC View Post
Dr. Massey's Cessna. It was the one with an engine in the front and one between the tail booms! I'm sure he would have known the aircraft ID.
That was a Cessna Skymaster or what I have always called a mix master You may not want to post his full name, but if you did it may be easier to get more info.
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The FAA might have archival registration records from the late 60's/early 70's, which can be searched using the registrants name (since you don't have an N number to search). You can find contact information for the FAA Registration offices here and inquire as to whether archival information is available.

Assuming the aircraft was registered in your grandfather's name, you'd simply use his name to search the registration records. To limit liability though, many aircraft owners form an LLC. Typically, the aircraft is the sole corporate asset. If you grandfather incorporated, the aircraft would have been registered in the name of the corporation, not the individual. If this were the case (assuming the FAA has archival registration records available to search), you'd need to know the name of the LLC.

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My grandfather's name was Edward Schuler.

He was a residential builder and developer in the central Ohio area, primarily around Mansfield, Ohio.

He died when he was 51 of Hodgkins Lymphoma.

I am now 51 years old and I'm more interested in finding his airplane than I have been in the past.

I never really knew him, but I have many of the same interests that he had. I make my living in construction like he did. I love boating and fishing like he did. I love the Florida Keys (Key Colony Beach) where he built a couple houses in the late 60's.

I began a career in aviation after college but burned out after a couple years. Accident Investigation.

I think I would like to get back to general aviation and see about getting an airplane. Any small single would be fine, but it sure would be cool if I could find his old plane and resume his journey!
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I have searched the FAA online database under his name but couldn't find anything. I'm guessing the records from the sixties are not as cross referenced as they are now.

If only I had the tail number, this would be a simple task.

I have pestered family members for years. I have looked through as many old photos that I could get a hold of.

I'm lucky my uncle finally stumbled on an actual photo of the aircraft, actually a slide, and remembered to send me a pic.
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Originally Posted by Cat Tales MHC View Post
I have searched the FAA online database under his name but couldn't find anything. I'm guessing the records from the sixties are not as cross referenced as they are now.

If only I had the tail number, this would be a simple task.
Yes, the online records database is current, not archival.

That's why I suggest contacting the FAA to see if they have archival records available to search, perhaps in person in OKC.

A registration number could help but is no guarantee. The aircraft N number could have been changed or the aircraft destroyed years ago.

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Originally Posted by Cat Tales MHC View Post
I have searched the FAA online database under his name but couldn't find anything. I'm guessing the records from the sixties are not as cross referenced as they are now.

If only I had the tail number, this would be a simple task.

I have pestered family members for years. I have looked through as many old photos that I could get a hold of.

I'm lucky my uncle finally stumbled on an actual photo of the aircraft, actually a slide, and remembered to send me a pic.
There are some Shulers there.

Enter the last name only. Edward A. comes up but with a Cessna 150. The plane in your picture is not a 150. There's another Shuler, a jr. Check it out by entering just the last name.

I do know the online faa info is incomplete. My grand dad is still listed (he died in 1975) but it only lists 3 planes. I would guess he owned 20 or more over the yrs.
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Originally Posted by baypro21 View Post
Check it out by entering just the last name.
Or by clicking the link I posted in Post #16.

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Old 11-24-2016, 08:37 AM
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I searched the FAA database for Ohio, Richland County where Mansfield is located.

There is a 1959 Cessna175A registered there. I know this is kind of a long shot.

Is there any chance that the picture I posted is a Cessna 175A?

Is the aircraft pictured 100% a Cessna 182? Could it be another model?

If anyone is positive, what makes you 100% certain?

Did 182's have a divided windshield like the one shown?
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Cessna 182

Cessna 175A
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Looks like a C-205
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