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Old 11-21-2016, 06:53 PM
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I have a year old lab that I think we are going to send away for some training. Primarily for obedience but with some retriever training mixed in because she loves to fetch and swim. She will be gone for about 2 months but we will go down after 3-4 weeks and they will work with my kids and the dog. I hate to spend the money but I think it will be worth it in the long run. Probably going to use Oak Ridge kennels on Monroe NC.
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We did and it was money well spent.
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Lake country retrievers off 85 just south of the va line does an awesome job and is a super nice guy.
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I did. He is a Chesapeake though, and it was worth every penny. Hank went for 3 months and came back force fetched and a duck retrieving machine.
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Terry at Oakridge trained one for me years ago. He is a good guy and knows what he is doing.
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Yep. 2 months up in Chestertown, MD
Best money I ever spent on a dog! Left a child and came home a man!
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I have a friend who is a very good dog trainer with a degree from UGA in that field. Her opinion is it's not the dog who needs the training it's the owner in all but the most extreme cases.
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I trained my own; and she will run circles around many dogs with thousands spent on training.

Not saying that's always going to be the case, but for me... I'd probably only send them off if you think you don't have the time or the ability to do it yourself.

My dog is also not considered a tool, she is a member of the family. I really don't think I'd ever be able to send her away for months at a time.
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My 13 year old was with a trainer on an off for a total of almost 2.5 years while getting titled and running hunt tests. He came home a lot and once he was done with the heavy training, I would send him back for 2 months before hunting season. He liked it there to be honest.

I also have a 2 year old and he has spend a total of 10 month in training. 8 months to start and then a tune up before hunting season. His trainer was close to the house so I worked with him a lot more than my old dog.

I have spent a ton on them but I get a lot in return. Plus, I like watching a good dog more than shooting the birds.

The training socialized them very well and both of them have great manners. I could take either anywhere without worrying.
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I have a friend who is a very good dog trainer with a degree from UGA in that field. Her opinion is it's not the dog who needs the training it's the owner in all but the most extreme cases.
There is some truth to this. I have seen/experienced this at times where my dogs were better than I was a handler. You have to put the time in, like anything else, to reap the benefits. I wanted to train my own, but I didn't have the time or the patience unfortunately.
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Agree on the owner training, depends on what you want your dog to do, lots of great books (the old "water dog" is great. If you don't spend time with the dog reinforcing what they have learned doesn't matter who trained it. Most labs are pretty easy to get the basics come sit stay.
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I trained my AWS myself. I work from home so I had the time each morning to dedicate to training. He titled in Spaniel hunt tests and retriever tests. Nothing like hunting with a dog you trained yourself. If you don't have the time then you really don't have an option.
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I guess I'm an old softy... the idea of sending a dog who'd been with me for a year away for three months is heartbreaking. I'd miss my boy too much!
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I guess I'm an old softy... the idea of sending a dog who'd been with me for a year away for three months is heartbreaking. I'd miss my boy too much!
It is not easy. I remember my dad saying it was easier to send me off to boarding and my sister to college in the same year than it was to send a dog off to be tuned up.

I think it also depends on the dog. I can speak for mine and they were bought to hunt with specific pedigrees which included retrieving, pointing, and flushing. They have manners but VERY high drive in the field. Both of them were very happy to be worked every day rather than go 2-3 days between training. They would get extremely restless if they didn't get worked or run hard.
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It is not easy. I remember my dad saying it was easier to send me off to boarding and my sister to college in the same year than it was to send a dog off to be tuned up.

I think it also depends on the dog. I can speak for mine and they were bought to hunt with specific pedigrees which included retrieving, pointing, and flushing. They have manners but VERY high drive in the field. Both of them were very happy to be worked every day rather than go 2-3 days between training. They would get extremely restless if they didn't get worked or run hard.
I honestly don't understand the people who "don't have time to train their dog". Most of them can give you a play-by-play of the recent football game. Like you didn't have 20 minutes during half-time to run some drills?

It doesn't take long to throw a bumper a couple dozen times to get a dog like this their minimum daily fix. If you really don't have time for a little daily work/play, then how do you even have time to feed them?
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I honestly don't understand the people who "don't have time to train their dog". Most of them can give you a play-by-play of the recent football game. Like you didn't have 20 minutes during half-time to run some drills?

It doesn't take long to throw a bumper a couple dozen times to get a dog like this their minimum daily fix. If you really don't have time for a little daily work/play, then how do you even have time to feed them?
They get bumper play everyday but I don't consider that working them. Real training requires consistency and repetition which is an everyday thing. Some days I have time for it and others I don't which is why I pay someone to supplement what I can't do or may not have the knowledge for. Training to me is not just throwing the bumper a few dozen times. I consider that exercising and as your screen name suggests, I don't need a dog that is the best at exercising, my dogs play real sports.

Doing the initial training like pile work and t drills can be done in a decent sized yard but still requires probably 45 minutes-1 hour start to finish. Figure most have to drive somewhere with enough land to set it up, train, break down, and then do it every day. Ideally you need permission to cut into the field to create "runways" for the diamond when learning whistles and hand signals.

It becomes more difficult when you need more land and time to set up bumper boys, set up blinds, wingers. Running blinds through my wife's roses is frowned upon as is shooting flyers in the neighborhood.

Just out of curiosity, what "drills" are you running in the yard other that reiterating sit, stay, heal, and give? The question may sound sarcastic, but I am always open to learn something new.
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I honestly don't understand the people who "don't have time to train their dog". Most of them can give you a play-by-play of the recent football game. Like you didn't have 20 minutes during half-time to run some drills?

It doesn't take long to throw a bumper a couple dozen times to get a dog like this their minimum daily fix. If you really don't have time for a little daily work/play, then how do you even have time to feed them?
Time,Money,Knowledge: you must have two of the three and out of the three knowledge is probably the most important.
Training involves knowledge gained through putting your hands on many dogs not just a handful. Throwing bumpers in the yard isn't training, it's playing and does very little to teach a concept. Books and dvd's have moved light years ahead since I started 19 years ago. It's possible to build a finished retriever using them but you still need a mentor.

The ROI of sending a dog to a qualified trainer is imesursble when amoritized against its life span.
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
I have a friend who is a very good dog trainer with a degree from UGA in that field. Her opinion is it's not the dog who needs the training it's the owner in all but the most extreme cases.
Without a doubt, the owner needs training not the dog.

Some people should not own dogs.
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