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Old 11-17-2016, 01:31 PM
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I didn't get through the whole thread but it doesn't seem Jim Beam is a favorite of anyone. I drink it only because it is kind of a "standard" I guess. Sometimes "live it up" on Makers.

I don't know much about Bourbon (obviously). Can anyone point me to a web site where one can learn a little?
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mattttt25 View Post
Stores will go to a distillery, or have a connection with one. If they visit, they will taste several samples and pick their favorite. They then buy the barrel. Distillery bottles that barrel (aka single barrel), slaps on a special label (Hand picked by ABC Liquors), and the store then sells it as a store pick.

Doesn't always mean the bottle is going to be good. But if you have a good liquor store with someone that knows bourbon, they often pick a nice barrel. They also take note of customer feedback and sales. They then relay that info back to the distiller when choosing their next barrel.

It sounds like more of a local, closer to Tennessee, type store thing. I'll have to ask around the bigger stores I shop occasionally around here to see if they have any kind of store picked bourbon. Thx.
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Guy View Post
I didn't get through the whole thread but it doesn't seem Jim Beam is a favorite of anyone. I drink it only because it is kind of a "standard" I guess. Sometimes "live it up" on Makers.

I don't know much about Bourbon (obviously). Can anyone point me to a web site where one can learn a little?
There are a lot of good review sites out there - in no particular order: http://bourbonr.com/, http://www.breakingbourbon.com/articles.html, http://whiskyadvocate.com/buying-guide/

There are many others...

But, the best way to start is to find a good whiskey/bourbon bar near you. Go when they are quiet and spend some time talking the the bartender. Very often they do small pours so you can try a couple of different things and see what you like.

A great way to get started is an old fashioned. Get a bottle of something decent - Four Roses Yellow label or small batch, some simple syrup, and a bottle of bitters ( I like Fee Brothers). Couple ounces onto ice, a couple dashes bitters, and a tiny, tiny bit of simple syrup.

A couple of those and I worked back on the simple syrup and bitters and all of the sudden straight bourbon was delicious!

Once you have an idea of the types of bourbon you like, a good liquor store is a great friend to have!
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithS View Post
It sounds like more of a local, closer to Tennessee, type store thing. I'll have to ask around the bigger stores I shop occasionally around here to see if they have any kind of store picked bourbon. Thx.
We get them up in the Northeast...

I have two liquor stores near me that do it, just north of Boston.

Picked up a Blanton's and a Weller 107. They also had two different Four Roses ones.

They may or may not ship - worth a call to Redstone Liquors in Stoneham.
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Cool.
There is a store in East Hartford and another in Old Saybrook that carry Blanton's, The Old Saybrook store I had to ask for it because they kept it behind the counter. I'll have to chk those store out first. thx.
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Guy View Post
I didn't get through the whole thread but it doesn't seem Jim Beam is a favorite of anyone. I drink it only because it is kind of a "standard" I guess. Sometimes "live it up" on Makers.

I don't know much about Bourbon (obviously). Can anyone point me to a web site where one can learn a little?
Old Grandad 114 is a Jim Beam Product that you should track down and I am not a huge mixed drink guy, but I typically make my Old Fashioned with Jim Beam Single Barrel.

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It sounds like more of a local, closer to Tennessee, type store thing. I'll have to ask around the bigger stores I shop occasionally around here to see if they have any kind of store picked bourbon. Thx.
Lots of stores by us do it, usually the little mom and pops don't however.
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Y'all are taking your pictures waaaaay wrong. Notice the most important detail in this here picture.......EMPTY! Yep, I drank the sh*t out of that bottle of Eagle Rare, and I loved every drop!
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Just found a store out here in NV with a bottle of Buffalo Trace Experimental Collection ....may have to go pick it up....
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My daily go to is Makers Mark. I really need to get out more and try something different. Great thread folks, I have learned a ton!
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All my friends tell me I'm the high roller because I drink crown black ... after reading most of this they're way off .
All my buddies drink jim beam and jim beam rye.
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Originally Posted by 83 t craft View Post
All my friends tell me I'm the high roller because I drink crown black ... after reading most of this they're way off .
All my buddies drink jim beam and jim beam rye.
we haven't even addressed canadian whiskeys yet -- crown is a canadian whiskey -- which are typically but not always something like a hybrid of an american rye and a scotch (which uses lots of malted barley). so...if you like crown, you might want to start with some of the rye whiskeys mentioned earlier like bulleit rye, russell rye, knob creek rye, and sazerac. these will likely be a little sweeter than most canadians since they don't use the malted barley which tends to provide a more smokey or earthy flavor.
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I got a bottle of crown rye if that counts
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I got a bottle of crown rye if that counts
i would not turn down a pour of that!
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Old 11-18-2016, 02:41 AM
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There are great Canadian whiskeys and I'm also partial to Irish whiskeys.

But this is "Strictly Bourbon" not "Strictly Whiskey" ( though I'm all for that thread too).

Stated for the record and for the benefit of those just getting into bourbon:

Bourbon must be made in America using a mash bill (recipe of raw ingredients to be fermented and then distilled) of at least 51% corn, aged in new charred oak barrels, and bottled at not less than 80 proof.

All bourbons are whiskeys, but not all whiskeys are bourbon.

But since it was mentioned, I don't turn down Crown. Or Jack Daniel's. Or Jameson (especially the Cask Mates series). None are bourbon but all are tasty.
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Originally Posted by OurSomeday View Post
There are great Canadian whiskeys and I'm also partial to Irish whiskeys.

But this is "Strictly Bourbon" not "Strictly Whiskey" ( though I'm all for that thread too).

Stated for the record and for the benefit of those just getting into bourbon:

Bourbon must be made in America using a mash bill (recipe of raw ingredients to be fermented and then distilled) of at least 51% corn, aged in new charred oak barrels, and bottled at not less than 80 proof.

All bourbons are whiskeys, but not all whiskeys are bourbon.

But since it was mentioned, I don't turn down Crown. Or Jack Daniel's. Or Jameson (especially the Cask Mates series). None are bourbon but all are tasty.
I know nothing about Irish or Canadian Whiskey but bring it on....

what I dont like about a lot of "whiskey" that isn't officially "Straight Bourbon Whiskey" or "Straight Rye Whiskey" is that they very often have a percentage of "neutral spirits" For instance, Rebecca Creek is one of those, I think it says right on the label.

In order to be "Straight Bourbon" or "Straight Rye" it can have no other additives at all, not color, not neutral spirits, no added flavor....NADA.
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Y'all are taking your pictures waaaaay wrong. Notice the most important detail in this here picture.......EMPTY! Yep, I drank the sh*t out of that bottle of Eagle Rare, and I loved every drop!
I hate to blow up your spot, but there is still bourbon in that bottle
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Ok, guys, I have commented on this thread earlier...I have now let the Admiral read this thread (she loved the comment on having enough Crown Bags to make a boat cover by the way)....Anyway, away we went to our local ABC (liquor) store and start looking. After a lot of looking, we came out with our usual Makers Mark, but, also grabbed a bottle of 1792. Took it home, grabbed a high ball glass, some ice, and sipped it straight. I must admit, the Admiral was way better at it than I...as it took me a little longer to sip it...but, I really liked it. Ended up having a 1792 & a couple of Makers...Today, we are off to pick up a bottle of Billeit or however you spell it...Enjoying tasting different stuff...
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Originally Posted by KeithS View Post
Cool.
There is a store in East Hartford and another in Old Saybrook that carry Blanton's, The Old Saybrook store I had to ask for it because they kept it behind the counter. I'll have to chk those store out first. thx.
If it's one of your first forays into bourbon, I don't know that I would jump all the way into the store specific single barrels...

I am the farthest thing from a bourbon expert. Farthest thing. But the store bottles are typically pretty expensive (although not always, by any means).

For a first, nicer bottle, I think it would be hard to beat Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, or Four Roses Small batch. All reasonably priced and pretty accessible.

You can always go the harder route too Get a bottle of Bookers - bottled straight out of the barrel and very, very strong. Find yourself a nice glass and a giant ice cube. Seeing how it changes from hot, hot, hot straight out of the bottle to really smooth and mellow as it cools and the water melts into it is pretty fun.

Half of what I like about drinking bourbon is the way it changes over the course of a glass.
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Originally Posted by MattGoose View Post
If it's one of your first forays into bourbon, I don't know that I would jump all the way into the store specific single barrels...

I am the farthest thing from a bourbon expert. Farthest thing. But the store bottles are typically pretty expensive (although not always, by any means).

For a first, nicer bottle, I think it would be hard to beat Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, or Four Roses Small batch. All reasonably priced and pretty accessible.

You can always go the harder route too Get a bottle of Bookers - bottled straight out of the barrel and very, very strong. Find yourself a nice glass and a giant ice cube. Seeing how it changes from hot, hot, hot straight out of the bottle to really smooth and mellow as it cools and the water melts into it is pretty fun.

Half of what I like about drinking bourbon is the way it changes over the course of a glass.

Was planning on stopping after work in the East Hartford/Galstonbury store to look for some Eagle Rare or Four roses, or both.
According to the bourbon tree chart I was looking around the Hayden branch and was thinking of Knob Creek but now also see the Bookers you mentioned.
I really have to try an ice cube, i've been straight neat so far. That booker's sounds like it might be a good candidate for a cube. Thx.
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Originally Posted by Fatherof4 View Post
Ok, guys, I have commented on this thread earlier...I have now let the Admiral read this thread (she loved the comment on having enough Crown Bags to make a boat cover by the way)....Anyway, away we went to our local ABC (liquor) store and start looking. After a lot of looking, we came out with our usual Makers Mark, but, also grabbed a bottle of 1792. Took it home, grabbed a high ball glass, some ice, and sipped it straight. I must admit, the Admiral was way better at it than I...as it took me a little longer to sip it...but, I really liked it. Ended up having a 1792 & a couple of Makers...Today, we are off to pick up a bottle of Billeit or however you spell it...Enjoying tasting different stuff...


so now you need to master the art of the "subtle exhale". as you let the whiskey roll back on your tongue, open your mouth slightly and gently push the vapors out of your mouth. it's almost like a "sigh" but need to be very subtle so you dont blow the whiskey out of your mouth and end up looking like toolbag.
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