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DMack_762 11-16-2016 10:24 AM

I agree on the glass choice. Definitely makes a difference.

GASeminole 11-16-2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OurSomeday (Post 9681674)
This. Yes, it's a Heaven Hill brand that a lot of people dismiss because it's "big industry" bourbon, but it's really good and at a reasonable price. The Elijah Craig single barrel 12 yr is also a great bourbon especially for the price and availability.

I find the Eagle Rare and also the Makers 46 a bit harsh up front with very similar spicy flavors. No major complaints from either other than I value smoothness over complex flavors- personal choice.

For a basic bourbon I like Maker's (sweet) or Buffalo Trace ( balanced). I keep either/or on hand at all times plus usually the Elijah barrel proof or 12yr single barrel.

For more complex I prefer Blanton, Weller, Taylor, and Lee. Or the much older Elijah Craig's. But I'm a fairly cheap bourbon snob, so it's usually one at a time until it's gone :(

The great thing about bourbon is most people think it's a narrow selection of spirit, but once you start exploring you realize it's a huge range of tastes.

Speaking of Heaven Hill, here is a bottle I picked up last year in Louisville. Saving for I don't know what.....but saving it

This thread is making me thirsty.....I am doing a 10 day"cleanse" thing my wife got me into and we are on day 10 right now.....that's right. Tonight will be the 10th night straight without a drop of alkee-hall. I'm thinking tomorrow night I will pour three fingers of Angels Envy for my plunge from the wagon

MattGoose 11-16-2016 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by freedbaby (Post 9683109)
VERY solid advice, I will only add a couple things.

7) dont be afraid to let something breathe. Oxygen will totally change most bottles...I have gone back to bottles a week or two later and they were totally different than when I opened it. I hated Four Roses Small Batch the moment I opened it. 2 weeks later its a VERY enjoyable bottle of Bourbon.

8)As Happyjack says...learn not just the age statement lingo but ALL the lingo. Barrel Proof, Single Barrel, Small Batch, use of the word "Straight", Cask Strength, "Distilled and bottled by" vs just "bottled by" or "finished and bottled by" etc. He is absolutely right when he says knowing this lingo could possibly keep you from getting burned.

You seem to have the same taste in bourbon that I do - high proof and sweet.

I've had, and enjoyed Booker's (my start), Rowan's Creek, Four Roses Small/Single, Colonel Taylor Single.

I don't really like the Rebel Yell 10 year I have - too smoky. I didn't like the Basil Hayden bottle very much - kinda weak I thought.

I've had the Russel Reserve - I think the small batch (same as the one you show, but red instead of black). And I like it pretty well - it's a bit viscous for me (I think that's the non-chill filtered).

I've also had Eagle Rare, Buffalo Trace and a couple others before I really started to know what I like...

My local place just got their own barrel of Old Weller Antique that I'm going to try and pick up. They also have their own Blanton's that I'm going to try to grab.

What else would you suggest? Preferably easier to find?

DMack_762 11-16-2016 10:45 AM

Have any of you tried Woodford Reserve Double Oaked? We get it for about $52 a bottle at Total Wine, and sometimes as low as $47 a bottle at the Class Six on post. It is one of my go-to bourbons... nice, big, good neat or with a rock.

freedbaby 11-16-2016 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by MattGoose (Post 9683334)
You seem to have the same taste in bourbon that I do - high proof and sweet.

I've had, and enjoyed Booker's (my start), Rowan's Creek, Four Roses Small/Single, Colonel Taylor Single.

I don't really like the Rebel Yell 10 year I have - too smoky. I didn't like the Basil Hayden bottle very much - kinda weak I thought.

I've had the Russel Reserve - I think the small batch (same as the one you show, but red instead of black). And I like it pretty well - it's a bit viscous for me (I think that's the non-chill filtered).

I've also had Eagle Rare, Buffalo Trace and a couple others before I really started to know what I like...

My local place just got their own barrel of Old Weller Antique that I'm going to try and pick up. They also have their own Blanton's that I'm going to try to grab.

What else would you suggest? Preferably easier to find?

Yes, it does seem like we share similar tastes. Sucks about Rebel Yell, I have a bottle I havent opened yet.

Didn't see you mention Noah's Mill, Stagg Jr., or EH Taylor. High proof really really tasty Bourbons. Grab those.

Man I would love to have a Weller 107 and Blantons store pick! Thats cool

freedbaby 11-16-2016 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by DMack_762 (Post 9683339)
Have any of you tried Woodford Reserve Double Oaked? We get it for about $52 a bottle at Total Wine, and sometimes as low as $47 a bottle at the Class Six on post. It is one of my go-to bourbons... nice, big, good neat or with a rock.

I don't buy Woodford, I only drink it if I am out and they got nothing else. Maybe I should grab a bottle of this one.

DMack_762 11-16-2016 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by freedbaby (Post 9683384)
I don't buy Woodford, I only drink it if I am out and they got nothing else. Maybe I should grab a bottle of this one.

I don't either. I equate it (normal Woodford) with Bar Bourbon... but, the Double Oaked is worth a try. :thumbsup:

MattGoose 11-16-2016 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by freedbaby (Post 9683381)
Yes, it does seem like we share similar tastes. Sucks about Rebel Yell, I have a bottle I havent opened yet.

Didn't see you mention Noah's Mill, Stagg Jr., or EH Taylor. High proof really really tasty Bourbons. Grab those.

Man I would love to have a Weller 107 and Blantons store pick! Thats cool

Noah's Mill is on my list.

I had a bottle of Stagg Jr before I knew what I was doing but want to get some more.

In on a raffle for a bottle of Pappy 12 year.... Finger's crossed.

Now I gotta find some place to store it all....

freedbaby 11-16-2016 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by MattGoose (Post 9683408)
Noah's Mill is on my list.

I had a bottle of Stagg Jr before I knew what I was doing but want to get some more.

In on a raffle for a bottle of Pappy 12 year.... Finger's crossed.

Now I gotta find some place to store it all....

buy Pappy because it's collectable....there is much better Bourbon out there though.

KeithS 11-16-2016 11:51 AM

Is that Heaven Hill plumb colored?

GASeminole 11-16-2016 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by KeithS (Post 9683598)
Is that Heaven Hill plumb colored?

It is a very dark brown, like maple syrup

83 t craft 11-16-2016 01:19 PM

High ball glass if on the rocks. If mixing 32oz Tupperware cup

MikeeBooshay 11-16-2016 07:39 PM

Noah's Mill = very nice, better than Pappy's.

Drinking a bit of Eagle Rare tonight, recovering from the debauchery last night.

Just gave away a bottle of Old Scout single barrel today to a very good friend, really like that stuff too.

Marlinmate1 11-16-2016 09:15 PM

So funny story.... I like bourbon. I go over to a friends house who is a beer guy and I ask for bourbon. He says dig in that there cabinet and look in the back . I pull out a bottle that says Very Very Old Fitzgerald, dust it off, crack the seal and pour a 50/50 with Fitzgerald and Coke and enjoyed the night along with about 85% of the contents of said bottle. Very good stuff I might add. Little did I know.

The next day, the mailman comes and brings me Garden & gun and I read this.

http://gardenandgun.com/article/grea...bon-taste-test

I mixed it with Coke. I gargled with it. I disrespected it....and now we laugh about it.

coores14 11-17-2016 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by Marlinmate1 (Post 9685262)
So funny story.... I like bourbon. I go over to a friends house who is a beer guy and I ask for bourbon. He says dig in that there cabinet and look in the back . I pull out a bottle that says Very Very Old Fitzgerald, dust it off, crack the seal and pour a 50/50 with Fitzgerald and Coke and enjoyed the night along with about 85% of the contents of said bottle. Very good stuff I might add. Little did I know.

The next day, the mailman comes and brings me Garden & gun and I read this.

http://gardenandgun.com/article/grea...bon-taste-test

I mixed it with Coke. I gargled with it. I disrespected it....and now we laugh about it.

oops

83 t craft 11-17-2016 04:52 AM

That's like putting ketchup on a filet mignon

mattttt25 11-17-2016 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by DMack_762 (Post 9683339)
Have any of you tried Woodford Reserve Double Oaked? We get it for about $52 a bottle at Total Wine, and sometimes as low as $47 a bottle at the Class Six on post. It is one of my go-to bourbons... nice, big, good neat or with a rock.

Personally think it's one of the worst bourbons I've ever had. Oak taste is consuming, way over the top. Regular Woodford isn't my first choice, but I enjoy it.

Fish Hunter IV 11-17-2016 06:16 AM

I've never had any Woodford that I thought was worth a darn. Way, way over-rated in my book.

Although long gone and not a true KY bourbon, AH Hirsch Special Reserve was another great, great one. As I understand it, another distillery is producing the Hirsch recipe again. Don't know if its any good or not though.

MattGoose 11-17-2016 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by freedbaby (Post 9683381)
Yes, it does seem like we share similar tastes. Sucks about Rebel Yell, I have a bottle I havent opened yet.

Didn't see you mention Noah's Mill, Stagg Jr., or EH Taylor. High proof really really tasty Bourbons. Grab those.

Man I would love to have a Weller 107 and Blantons store pick! Thats cool

The Weller and Blanton's are both very, very good.

The Weller is HOT right out of the bottle, but a little time on ice opens it up really nicely.

The Blanton's has a new flavor that I can't quite put my finger on... I almost want to say that it tasted a little bit like raisins?!? It was also pretty hot right out of the bottle.

For $24, the Weller is a great, great deal.

83 t craft 11-17-2016 06:35 AM

If you want cheep flavored that don't taste bad Bird Dog


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