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Old 11-03-2016, 10:41 AM
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Saw an advance screening of the new war movie Hacksaw Ridge this week. I give it 3 stars out of 5. Mel Gibson (Braveheart, The Passion of the Christ) directed it. Vince Vaughn and Sam Worthington are the only "big name" stars. Takes place during World War 2.

Incredible amount of blood and guts, probably 500 people getting shot in the head, chest, legs blown away, stabbed or hit by flame thrower. Thousands more implied dead through missile strikes. Allegedly based upon a true story that was part of the battle of Okinawa.

The McGuffin is that the hero is a conscientious objector for religious reasons, and never fired a shot. He's the medic and saves several dozen lives of wounded soldiers after his battalion retreated. Not much of a romance, and definitely not a chick flick. And since it's rated R, leave the kids at home.

Do I recommend it? No, not really unless you enjoy seeing lots of pain and tragedy or are a war history buff. But that's just me... If that's your thing, go for the 3D/IMAX screen and marvel at the numerous special effects.
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Sorry to hear because I was looking forward to it.
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Kinda figured it was gonna be a stew fest. Especially seeing how gory The Passion was.
I get that it's war and all that but at some point it really starts to take away from the flick, and just turns it into a low budget slasher.
I'm not interested in seeing it.
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The story is good, but lordy, lordy... all those deaths.

But don't let my observations keep you away from it.
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I have not seen this movie.

Interesting, I'm not saying this is true, but the pieces do come together to form a picture.

The lead actor doesn't want to carry a gun and kill people, ok, I get that. But the guy casted for the roll is no Jason Statham or Dywane Johnson, the guy cast is kind'a a wimpy and unassuming in stature.

Now the movie is set in WWII with an excessive amount of killing, blood and guts.

What is the theme of the movie? Is it blood, guts and gore or is it the non-violent actions of this one person?

I can see this movie attempting to gross us out on the violent behavior of mankind in an attempt to portray another alternative to all the violence - sort of an attempt to pussify our society in some small way.???
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I plan on seeing it....maybe when it makes it to HBO.

My uncle was a conscientious objector and ended up being a stretcher bearer on Okinawa. Fringing nuts.

I'd rather have a chance to shoot back. But he had his beliefs and still was able to serve his country and live....but never talked about any of it.
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post

I can see this movie attempting to gross us out on the violent behavior of mankind in an attempt to portray another alternative to all the violence - sort of an attempt to pussify our society in some small way.???
No - that's not the message. More like, stick to your beliefs and follow them. Don't judge people based upon preconceptions. Stay out of the Army.
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Thanks for the warning I will pass.

"The McGuffin is that the hero is a conscientious objector for religious reasons"

Interesting I guess there was a time when C.O.'s actually went to the front. Too bad that didn't apply to Cassius Clay.
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Isn't this movie about the MOH winner? Is so, he was a pretty small fella. I have read his award write up and a little about his life and he was a pretty amazing, and very devout, guy. Here is a write up on him:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Doss

Is this the guy the movie is about?
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Can't make a movie about the battle of Okinawa with any degree authenticity unless killing, death and misery are prominently featured. Nearly 3 full months of Hell being unleashed on Earth with well over 100,000 combined deaths. My old man was there, he survived.....
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
But the guy casted for the roll is no Jason Statham or Dywane Johnson, the guy cast is kind'a a wimpy and unassuming in stature.
Audie Murphy wasn't much to look at either. In fact, the Navy and Marines turned him down.
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As an aside, the incredible carnage at Okinawa was only the prelude to what an invasion and final defeat of Japan would have been. Imagine 1,000 times the loss at Okinawa, and the decision to drop The Bombs is easier to understand.
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As an aside, the incredible carnage at Okinawa was only the prelude to what an invasion and final defeat of Japan would have been. Imagine 1,000 times the loss at Okinawa, and the decision to drop The Bombs is easier to understand.
Absolutely.

DELUSION is the only word to describe that Truman should not have dropped the bomb.

REALITY, dropping the bombS on Japan and ending the war saved millions of lives BOTH Allied & Japanese. A brutal but humanitarian act to stop a deranged nation on a fanatical mission of death and conquest...

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Originally Posted by The Kid View Post
I plan on seeing it....maybe when it makes it to HBO.

My uncle was a conscientious objector and ended up being a stretcher bearer on Okinawa. Fringing nuts.

I'd rather have a chance to shoot back. But he had his beliefs and still
was able to serve his country and live....but never talked about any of it.
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Can't make a movie about the battle of Okinawa with any degree authenticity unless killing, death and misery are prominently featured. Nearly 3 full months of Hell being unleashed on Earth with well over 100,000 combined deaths.
My old man was there, he survived.....
God bless and thank them for me/us.... and everyone else that has survived the hell of war.


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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
Thanks for the warning I will pass.

"The McGuffin is that the hero is a conscientious objector for religious reasons"

Interesting I guess there was a time when C.O.'s actually went to the front. Too bad that didn't apply to Cassius Clay.
Amen !!!
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gibson is a turd I would rather watch msnbc.
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Originally Posted by Schmaltz~Herring View Post
gibson is a turd I would rather watch msnbc.
I couldn't agree with you more!
A complete pathological nut job!
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I read the Desmond Doss wiki article the other day. Sounds like he was true hero and a Medal of Honor winner without carrying a rifle. Will eventually see the movie and hope it is an accurate account of his service.

As for the history, the battle of Okinawa was and important part and cost of bombing Japan. They wanted an airfield close to Japan to serve to launch attacks from. My Dad was on a B 29 crew stationed on Tinian. They made at least one emergency landing on Okinawa returning from a mission.
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Reminds me of Lewis Nixon (Band of Brothers) who jumped into Normandy the night before D-Day and made it until the end of the war in Germany without ever firing his rifle.
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Originally Posted by Bob's Cay View Post
I read the Desmond Doss wiki article the other day. Sounds like he was true hero and a Medal of Honor winner without carrying a rifle. Will eventually see the movie and hope it is an accurate account of his service.

As for the history, the battle of Okinawa was and important part and cost of bombing Japan. They wanted an airfield close to Japan to serve to launch attacks from. My Dad was on a B 29 crew stationed on Tinian. They made at least one emergency landing on Okinawa returning from a mission.
The difference between Doss (and two other MOH winners who were conscientious objectors) and cowards like Clay is he still wanted to serve his country. He signed up voluntarily. He wanted to serve, he just refused to carry a firearm so he was a medic.
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