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Old 10-17-2016, 11:27 PM
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Well here it is 2:15a & I have to get up in less than 4 hours. When I get up I will feel like crap all day until about 9p & then I will wake up & feel relatively normal. I will try to go wbed around 11p but will lay awake like I am now & the cycle will repeat itself for maybe a week. Then I will be so exhausted from lack of sleep I will literally crash & sleep for 12+ hours.

I take melatonin and an OTC sleeping pill but they rarely do much good. I have never had a prescription for sleeping pills because I always hear that they make you feel tired all day and once you start taking them you need to take them all the time. My doctor gave me a sample of 4 of Lunesta about a year ago & they worked ok if I remember correctly.

Does anyone else go through this? If so have you found anything that helps?
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http://www.thehulltruth.com/dockside...hat-helps.html

Some ideas From a previous discussion

You on your phone? Getting rid of any blue light a few hours before bed helps a bunch (no cell phone, no TV no laptop)

Any underlying medical conditions? What is your alcohol consumption?
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Xanax one at bedtime. See your doctor for a prescription.
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I rotate shifts at work either doing 0600-1200, 1800-2400 or 0000-6, 12-1800 (night and day for 20 days) I take a Tylenol pm an hour before i need to sleep for the first three days until i get a routine. Works for me and my messed up sleeping schedule.
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Benedryl has helped me in the past. Non habit forming. I can take it as long as I have 4 hours before I need to be up. Sometimes you wake up a little groggy but that goes away once you start moving and it's better than feeling crappy all day. Limit caffeine, no tv or internet before bed. Try reading something boring in a dimly lit room. Good luck. It sucks.
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If your are using an iphone, they have a "night shift" option to reduce the brightness of the light, that may help. Maybe exercise or light running at some point during the day may help tire you enough to get started sleeping.
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Originally Posted by ryanbeh.16 View Post
I rotate shifts at work either doing 0600-1200, 1800-2400 or 0000-6, 12-1800 (night and day for 20 days) I take a Tylenol pm an hour before i need to sleep for the first three days until i get a routine. Works for me and my messed up sleeping schedule.
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... have a sleep study done. Eliminate sleep apnea first.
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:51 AM
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I used to not sleep worth a hoot and then I quit drinking 2 years ago and never slept better.

ETA - obviously, ignore this advice if you don't drink.
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You need to layoff the hula hoop girls before bedtime.

Look at your diet in the evening. I found that certain foods were keeping me from resting. I cut out some carbs and alcohol and found I slept much better. I also had bad luck with the melatonin. Always felt groggy and a little hungover from it.
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Ask your doctor if you can try Trazodone.
It's a non addicting anti depressant but excellent for sleeping.
I do not feel groggy in the morning.
It's been a life changer for me.
I'll take a 10mg dissolvable melatonin with it if I feel extra restless.
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I like hydroxyzine

they used to use it to sedate people before surgery i'll pop 2 and be knocked the F out
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or ativan however it makes me black out and ill wake up on the kitchen floor or weird places like under my truck in the garage

I try to avoid that pill lol the side effect is new memories I guess that explains it
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Originally Posted by ThreeLittleFish View Post
Xanax one at bedtime. See your doctor for a prescription.
This! I weigh 175 and take 1/4-1/2 of a .5mg Xanax at bedtime as needed.

If I wake up any time before 4am I take 1/4-1/2 of a Ambien 5mg tablet. Helps me go back to sleep for a couple hours.

Experiment with dosage starting with small amounts to avoid any hung over feeling. I've found that Xanax doesn't produce any (which makes it dangerous!) - Ambien will, although nowhere near as bad as OTC stuff.
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ambien will put you out for sure and you will not wake up groggy.

I never sleep good after more than about 3 beers...


i have tried melatonin in the past but it makes me super grumpy and depressed the next day.

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Originally Posted by RightRigger View Post
Ask your doctor if you can try Trazodone.
It's a non addicting anti depressant but excellent for sleeping.
I do not feel groggy in the morning.
It's been a life changer for me.
I'll take a 10mg dissolvable melatonin with it if I feel extra restless.
Be careful with some of this stuff. SSRI and variants especially combined with alcohol consumption (not meaning at the same time, lot of this stuff has a longer half life) can cause severe liver injury.

https://livertox.nlm.nih.gov/Trazodone.htm

Xanax has its own problems. I take about 1/4mg as needed. I don't like it, but I also don't like not having sleep.

The biggest problem with drugs is they start you on one, then you get a side effect so they give you something to combat that, and another for the following one, etc. and you're literally a walking science experiment.

Most doctors aren't going to have enough time to research your full history and all the interactions. Combine that with big pharma and their "safety" studies and you're playing with fire even if you don't know it.
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Originally Posted by ThreeLittleFish View Post
Xanax one at bedtime. See your doctor for a prescription.

Works very well but don't do it, unless you want to never sleep again without it. You become dependent on it. First a tiny bit knocks you out, and maybe only use a couple times a week, before you know it, your taking it every night and on a higher dose. Been on and off the crap for 15yrs for sleep trying to kill an active mind. Kicking is not easy. I use Benadryl now, once or twice a week.
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I used to not sleep worth a hoot and then I quit drinking 2 years ago and never slept better.

ETA - obviously, ignore this advice if you don't drink.
I actually had trouble sleeping and started drinking two years ago and I have never slept any better.
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I go through cycles where I will sleep pretty well for a couple of weeks and then like crap for a couple of weeks. I take half an Ambien during the bad times to get some sleep. It helps and I don't wake up feeling groggy.
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