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Old 10-13-2016, 12:30 PM
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So my summer home was wiped out in Sandy, it took some time but we rebuilt, new home, not yet complete (no CO) still needs some minor adjusting before we can get a CO and move in.

Well the town just sent me a revised tax bill for 2015 and also 2016. stating they are going to reassess me for "substantial" improvements even though the house has not been completed.

Is this common practice? I know if I want to fight an increase I have a small window of time in which to do so, how do they get to go back 24 months?

Is there any way around this that you are aware of, the Nazi state is tightening it's grip.
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Old 10-13-2016, 12:58 PM
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Easiest way?

Move out of New Jersey.
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you can always go down and speak with the appraiser....
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seems like they should not be able to raise taxes or raise the valuation of property back in the past
I thought the condition of the property at the beginning of the year is what they tax on for that year.
but I have no idea what the entities up there do or can do
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Originally Posted by thefuzz View Post
Easiest way?

Move out of New Jersey.

Easier said then done, I make what I make because of NJ.

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you can always go down and speak with the appraiser....
Appointment set for next week, just looking for any legal or other angel I can take.





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seems like they should not be able to raise taxes or raise the valuation of property back in the past
I thought the condition of the property at the beginning of the year is what they tax on for that year.
but I have no idea what the entities up there do or can do

What I thought and will be claiming in my argument.
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If you can afford a summer home at the beach, you can afford the taxes

and yes, NJ taxes are out of control!
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If you can afford a summer home at the beach, you can afford the taxes

and yes, NJ taxes are out of control!
Nothing to do with "affording" all to do with right and wrong per the law.
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Hire a lawyer who specializes in property tax appeals.

I just purchased a property with yearly taxes 8.7% of what I paid for it. $495 the guy files the paperwork and shows up for the hearing.
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Couldn't agree more with Zardos.
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Originally Posted by thefuzz View Post
Easiest way?

Move out of New Jersey.
Florida is full, sorry.
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Nothing to do with "affording" all to do with right and wrong per the law.
Sorry if I was being dickish - just seems like a classic one of those "White People Problems"

If you don't think its fair - good luck with your fight. I didn't think it was fair when Sandy creamed NJ/NY and up in New England the next year my boat insurance doubled, but as my Mom never missed a chance to tell me - life isn't fair

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The vast majority of people simply pay their property tax based on the assessment they receive in the mail. There is a review/appeal process in place for a reason. Often, if you take the time to question the assessment and have a decent argument, you'll get it adjusted in your favor. Just takes a little effort.

Best of luck.
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Originally Posted by Zardoz View Post
Sorry if I was being dickish - just seems like a classic one of those "White People Problems"

If you don't think its fair - good luck with your fight. I didn't think it was fair when Sandy creamed NJ/NY and up in New England the next year my boat insurance doubled, but as my Mom never missed a chance to tell me - life isn't fair

No problem, glad you posted this, I feel better about you now. I get life isn't fair and am reminded just like everyone else how a screwing feels from time to time just as a reminder. Of course all our ins went up as did yours. That I expected and am willing to live with, having them come back some 22 months later and now say I owe them X,Y, and Z when they could have told me back when the major construction was going on (they were doing the inspections after all). I just didn't budget for the added expenses they are now trying to claim and I question their right to do so.

If you don't fight, just like in the jail house, you'll be challenged all that much more.. Can't allow them to walk all over me.
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Fwiw there is a community on the north shore of New Orleans where the property values went way up and pretty quickly.

EVERYBODY was so upset about their rise in valuation, and as a consequence, their tax bills.

So there was a big hoopla and they had some independent assessment done.

Moral of the story was that even with their new (higher) value/tax bill they were UNDER-assessed!

It went up even more.

PS it's widely known that values of property go up after a big hurricane . . . people rebuild bigger, better, nicer etc.

Good luck if it's reasonable I'd let sleeping dogs lie.
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depends on the state here in Vermont the property tax has gone crazy . I have lived in my current house 11years paid 3500 when move in now they want 11,000 I put it on the market and planning to move to another state God willing
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Ask if they are willing to give you a credit while there was no house on the lot. After all, it was just land.
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We are down a bathroom and a bedroom because of the storm and plan to have the town appraiser come in to reevaluate the taxes sometime in November. Hopefully we will get the taxes knocked down for another year
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Ask if they are willing to give you a credit while there was no house on the lot. After all, it was just land.
They did that, I had to protest of course but was able to get land only value for about 1 yr. I just don't like the idea of them backtracking and billing me for a house I still can't use.
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Originally Posted by YFMF View Post
They did that, I had to protest of course but was able to get land only value for about 1 yr.
No chit. I was just kidding.
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I didn't think it was fair when Sandy creamed NJ/NY and up in New England the next year my boat insurance doubled,
This is true and not just on boats. I originate mortgages and ever since Sandy, home insurance premiums have gone through the roof. Many homebuyers in Metro Atlanta are having to choose $2,500 to $5,000 deductibles to bring their premiums down to where they can afford them.
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