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Old 10-07-2016, 03:45 PM
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Just wondering how they get to the 165 mph wind speeds. Tracked it as it was approaching West End till it departed. Top clocked speed was 77Kts. Same along the FLA coast line all day, tops in the high 60's. Are they inflated these numbers on purpose? I have done the same tracking for 5-10 years and have yet to see it ever close to the speed NOAA is putting out there.
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They use dropsondes with anemometers in them and also use instrumentation on the hurricane hunter planes to make actual measurements. The max winds are only in the NE quadrant of the eye wall and drop off quickly from that point.
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That being the case how do they come up with 180mph winds at Lucaya airport (reported here, so) and 77kts at OBB which was getting the worst of it?
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Winds are higher the higher you go. So the plane is recording the winds at that attitude,and when they drop the recording device.
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Why, other than to create public panic, would they report winds that are vastly different from what those on the ground are experiencing?
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They hope it gets more viewers
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BSpot View Post
Just wondering how they get to the 165 mph wind speeds. Tracked it as it was approaching West End till it departed. Top clocked speed was 77Kts. Same along the FLA coast line all day, tops in the high 60's. Are they inflated these numbers on purpose? I have done the same tracking for 5-10 years and have yet to see it ever close to the speed NOAA is putting out there.
What is the source of your 77kt value?
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Originally Posted by bamaboy473 View Post
Why, other than to create public panic, would they report winds that are vastly different from what those on the ground are experiencing?
Unfortunately without meaning to you answered your own question.

The amount of incompetent and misleading information reported during this storm was appalling.

Maybe it's all major storms and I was just paying attention to this one more for obvious reasons, but I was disgusted.

I'm sticking to NOAA and weather blogs from here on out.
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Originally Posted by bamaboy473 View Post
Why, other than to create public panic, would they report winds that are vastly different from what those on the ground are experiencing?
Hurricane hysteria! Would people be glued to their TVs or looking up information on a lesser storm unless they were in the projected path? Typical Yellow Journalism seems to be about all we have now.
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None of you have mentioned the real reason these storms are ALWAYS hyped, $$$$$$
The more hysterical the media gets, the bigger the jackpot in federal aid gets! That way there's more $$$$$ for all the extra greedy hands to take their cut.

Disgusting....
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tornadoes are common within hurricanes.
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That West End NDBC station recorded around 77kts I think at about 7PM before it was damaged and stopped transmitting. I'm in Jupiter and was checking it as the storm approached. We never saw much more than 60 mph gusts here... very lucky.
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