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Old 09-16-2016, 07:58 PM
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Hey Gents,


Came across this. apparently the owner of a mobile home park in a VERY ritzy area of California wants to redevelop his land into condo's, but all the folk that live in the trailers say they can't afford to live anywhere else.


So the town and county, or whatever, got together and are going to buy him out using eminent domain.


The Guy might seem like a Scrooge, but why can't a man develop his land to make him the best profit?


http://video.foxnews.com/v/5128843325001/palo-alto-threatens-eminent-domain-to-save-mobile-home-park/?#sp=show-clips
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California is the land of the loons. It's disgusting what that state has become politically.
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I get to spend a bit of time in that area (Stanford). The prices are simply unbelievable - as best I can tell, they use Monopoly money. When I talk to the folks, their local and state regulations are unfathomable - at times, it is almost comical, but they just kind of shrug and accept it. I shake my head, and feel relieved when I board the plane to head back to Flyover Country. Their zoning requirements are beyond nuts, and affect so many things that I simply take for granted. I'd be in court within a month, I'm sure.
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California is the land of the loons. It's disgusting what that state has become politically.
This coming from the land of Portlandia.

But, being a Bay Area native, I have to agree. It's gotten pretty sad.
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Originally Posted by Steamer Lane View Post
This coming from the land of Portlandia.

But, being a Bay Area native, I have to agree. It's gotten pretty sad.
I thought it was all the Californians coming here to Oregon that was "ruining" our state.

My dad is a hard core conservative and lives in Petaluma. I really like that area and would like to retire there but I don't think I could put up with their politics. I definitely won't retire here.
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http://eminentdomainlawcalifornia.com/process/
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Regardless of what the owner wants to do,he can't do it anyhow.Why is the city using eminent domain.
Is there some type of collusion going on
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Regardless of what the owner wants to do,he can't do it anyhow.Why is the city using eminent domain.
Is there some type of collusion going on
Why can't he? It is his property.
All he would have to do is not renew leases until all the units are vacant. Then, proceed with his plans to developer HIS property as he sees fit.
The city is using eminent domain to take HIS property to preserve the "affordable housing".
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Originally Posted by Jason75979 View Post
Why can't he? It is his property.
All he would have to do is not renew leases until all the units are vacant. Then, proceed with his plans to developer HIS property as he sees fit.
The city is using eminent domain to take HIS property to preserve the "affordable housing".
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After looking up the article

This has been going for four years according to the article and your correct in it's for affordable housing. The city is colluding with local housing Auth
The county even says the owner has to pay the moving cost for the people.At a appraisal cost of 8 million dollars.
Law suits are pending

California eminent domain laws can be found in Title 7 of Code of Civil Procedure
Private property shall be taken by eminent domain only when there is a public use. Examples of “public uses” for which the government might exercise its power of eminent domain include such things as schools, roads, libraries, police stations, fire stations and similar public uses.

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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Didn't say he couldn't or shouldn't be able to.
My question was if you read it was why is the city taking the property.
You have any proof of the reason or is it just speculation?
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/06/28/palo-alto-oks-plan-that-could-save-mobile-home-park-through-eminent-domain-purchase/
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Meanwhile, in other Palo Alto housing development news.....
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/16/tech...mes/index.html
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Originally Posted by Jason75979 View Post
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/06/28/palo-alto-oks-plan-that-could-save-mobile-home-park-through-eminent-domain-purchase/
Reread my post. I edited it after watching the video. Collusion just like i said.
My guess he is going to win this case if he has the money to fight it.
You know how that goes. His private money to fight a taxpayer subsidized city
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Originally Posted by Jason75979 View Post
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/06/28/palo-alto-oks-plan-that-could-save-mobile-home-park-through-eminent-domain-purchase/
And from the article, concerning the $8E6 relocation fund, "The city, however, continues to face litigation from Buena Vista residents, who are suing because they say the required relocation assistance isn’t enough."
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Depends whether they pay fair market value. The Supreme Court of the USA has expanded ED several times.
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Originally Posted by Steamer Lane View Post
This coming from the land of Portlandia.

But, being a Bay Area native, I have to agree. It's gotten pretty sad.
Yep, gorgeous state and great people but f'd up politics.
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Just finished home searching in Malibu on the coast. Avg. price is 2mil. Trailers start at 800k and up and you don't own the land !
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Originally Posted by twollman View Post
I thought it was all the Californians coming here to Oregon that was "ruining" our state.

My dad is a hard core conservative and lives in Petaluma. I really like that area and would like to retire there but I don't think I could put up with their politics. I definitely won't retire here.
One of my favorite ares of the state. I really love Cotati.

My ex fil lived there. I loved visiting.
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