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Old 08-16-2016, 09:48 AM
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Wow, what a cluster &%$# !! I know they do a lotta good but seems like they sure dropped the ball on this one.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7511080.html
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Old 08-16-2016, 10:05 AM
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Another reason why I do not donate to heavy corporate charities...after every $ spent 1 penny is really donated...send them condoms...can't feed em - do not breed em
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Go to suck living in Haiti next door to the Dominican Republic, Not that the Dominican Republic is shangri-la, but they do have some nice resorts and a higher standard of living.

Wake up everyday, hungry, living in squalor, wondering WTF are we doing wrong.
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That is not a surprise.

I was the project manager for a construction project on the north side of Haiti far from Port a Prince in 2003 and 2004. The project took about 18 months to build and about 6 to plan and get permits. Our customer handled all the coordination with the Haitian government and there were likely some tough spots in that process but overall the process went well. Nothing like the Red Cross describes.

The actual construction was more a logistical problem than anything else. Everything had to be brought in by boat. No materials sourced locally. Part of the project was bringing in housing (trailers) for our crews. The crews would stay onsite for 3 weeks then come home for a week.

As part of our arrangement we had to include 8 locals in our crew of 8 from the US. The wages were set by the agreement with the government. A laborer received $7.00 PER DAY and the foreman that spoke English got $10.00 PER DAY. the first day onsite when materials arrived we had over 200 people ask for the jobs. The agreement also allow the head of each local village to nominate one person for the jobs. the original plan was to trotate people each week but that proved to be a monumental headache. So we stuck with one crew for the duration.

The 8 locals were some of the hardest working, most trustworthy guys we have ever worked with. The were so happy and proud for the opportunity. No doubt most were hoping they could leave with us at the end of the project, but that was not possible.

There were some parts of Haiti that I would never want to visit again but generaly it was a great adventure. The poverty there cannot be imagined. The locals salvaged every bit of construction debris they could for different purposes. There were shacks along the road you could not imagine anybody living in. The people were extremely appreciative.

An interesting point one local said - no matter if we elect a right wing government or a left wing government they both turn out to be corrupt over time.
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And the DR is a stark comparison to Haiti. They both share the same island and resources but the standard of living is much better in the DR. Seems the government is more stable too.
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I donate to local charities only.
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My ex-wifes aunt and uncle went to DR for a medical mission (they are both doctors). Reading this thread reminded me of a conversation we had when they got back. The haitans have raped the resources there. I have never been, so I am not stating this as fact, but a quick search turned up this site. Eye-opening to say the least.
http://blog.kulikulifoods.com/2015/1...tion-in-haiti/
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Sorry to give you some news you might not like to hear, but the Red Cross is NOT a good charitable organization to support. They're overhead is disgustingly high, most of their regional branches are run by morons who haven't got a clue.

MUCH, MUCH better organizations out there to support IMO.
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Do google search Clinton Foundation and Haiti .
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I steer clear of big charities like that for this reason. The money doesn't go to those in need. My favorite charity is local and has 1 employee. There is 1 small office space rented for the 1 employee. The rest of the money goes to the ones in need. The working poor. It's about a hand up, not a handout.
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Originally Posted by Blythe1022 View Post
I steer clear of big charities like that for this reason. The money doesn't go to those in need. My favorite charity is local and has 1 employee. There is 1 small office space rented for the 1 employee. The rest of the money goes to the ones in need. The working poor. It's about a hand up, not a handout.
Most folks are ignorant in regards to charities and too lasy to do some homework, they just want to pat themselves on their back and believe they're doing some good in the world, when in fact, their directly responsible for feeding corrupt organizations as well as politicians.
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In the article, once I got to USAID-involvement I knew the project was a total clusterf---
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The Red Cross, says it all.
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quoted from post 4
The 8 locals were some of the hardest working, most trustworthy guys we have ever worked with. The were so happy and proud for the opportunity. No doubt most were hoping they could leave with us at the end of the project, but that was not possible.

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You hear the above a lot.
so whats the real problem in these dysfunctional south and central american countries?
Religion? Government system? Too many people? No rule of law?
what is it?
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Originally Posted by edwardh1 View Post
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The 8 locals were some of the hardest working, most trustworthy guys we have ever worked with. The were so happy and proud for the opportunity. No doubt most were hoping they could leave with us at the end of the project, but that was not possible.

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You hear the above a lot.
so whats the real problem in these dysfunctional south and central american countries?
Religion? Government system? Too many people? No rule of law?
what is it?
Funny you mention Red Cross, they make sure to tell us in their ads that all monies donate to flood relief will stay in Louisiana. Guilty much?
Same in Africa, none have advanced as a civilization past hunter gatherers. India and China are the only post colonial states to advance past the savage level.
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The Red Cross, says it all.
Yep one of the worst out there. The far majority are corrupt scumbags.
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