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Old 08-05-2016, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GR1FFIN View Post
My brother is a Harvard liberal and lives in the city (Boston) there are some homeless guys near his building. He bought a breakfast sandwich for himself and two for the 2 homeless guys. When he gave it to them, they looked in bag and then threw it back at him and said "we want money for booze." True story.

I feel bad for the mentally ill that should be in an institution.
i had a similar experience as well.
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Originally Posted by GR1FFIN View Post
I feel bad for the mentally ill that should be in an institution.
What about the ones who are already in an institution? Or the ones that don't require being institutionalized? Do you feel bad for them to? Serious question, not being sarcastic, I am just trying to better understand your comments, your generalizations/assumptions are off putting IMO.
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Curious, how do you know those panhandlers are not homeless? Conversely, how do you know that people are or are not mentally ill, or alcoholics, based on the way they look?.
Based on 48 years of observation, life experience.

If you are so down and out that you sleep outside, you generally aren't wearing brand new sneakers, clean clothes or a fresh haircut and shave. Nor do you buy a green safety vest for panhandling.

There are proper avenues to get help, begging on the highway is not one of them.
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Originally Posted by atcfris View Post
What about the ones who are already in an institution? Or the ones that don't require being institutionalized? Do you feel bad for them to? Serious question, not being sarcastic, I am just trying to better understand your comments, your generalizations/assumptions are off putting IMO.
With all due respect, where does it stop? Do you "feel" bad for EVERY downtrodden, destitute, poor-decision-maker, destitute, etc around the globe? i know, it sound silly, but be realistic.
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Originally Posted by GR1FFIN View Post
Based on 48 years of observation, life experience.

If you are so down and out that you sleep outside, you generally aren't wearing brand new sneakers, clean clothes or a fresh haircut and shave. Nor do you buy a green safety vest for panhandling.

There are proper avenues to get help, begging on the highway is not one of them.
Got it. These are your opinions, and are not based on anything other than your own life experiences, which I am guessing by your posts does not include being mentally ill, an alcoholic, a panhandler, or a homeless person.
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Originally Posted by BlueRudy View Post
I like to pay them to fight.
Watching two malnourished homeless guys go at it makes for an entertaining lunch.
You are a sick man .... which makes you funny as hell.
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Every year during summer they had a small music festival
The kind with crappy bands and lots of drugs that people travel from all over for
Every year we have a bunch of transients that stick around for a week or two after and thats annoying
They arent homeless they are just lazy and want things for free
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Originally Posted by NJFISH View Post
With all due respect, where does it stop? Do you "feel" bad for EVERY downtrodden, destitute, poor-decision-maker, destitute, etc around the globe? i know, it sound silly, but be realistic.
It won't stop, not as long as compassion and humanity are turned a blind eye to.
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Originally Posted by GR1FFIN View Post
Like I said, I dont know where you live, but in Tampa very few look like mentally ill/alcoholics, the trend is for young-midlle aged people wearing normal/nice clothes and groomed fairly clean to adorn green safety vests (to comply with the law that you must wear safety gear to solitic in medians of roads), while they ask panhandle for cash at the major intersections and freeway exits.
They seriously bother you at intersections? We've got them as well in certain places near where I live and if they approach me I just shake my head and they move on down the line. Doesn't really affect my standard of living or quality of life.

As for the "they don't look mentally ill" comment, I just can't imagine how you can tell. Mental illness takes many forms and being dirty or disheveled isn't a prerequisite.
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I can very much understand your frustration regarding not being able to have a peaceful lunch. I find it pitiful that working, tax paying citizens often take a back seat to bums in such public venues, and they are the ones funding them. Regardless that is an issue to take up with local law enforcement & town council, not a valid excuse to be a dick and possibly cause someone physical harm.
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Originally Posted by OReely View Post
Mental illness takes many forms and being dirty or disheveled isn't a prerequisite.
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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
So the moral of the OP is? :

If another is down and out..even a drunk or addict..or such...
Then it is then acceptable to do to them what you would not do to ones own wife, boss, friend or sweet and kind elderly neighbor?

I think not.
We cannot always help others in their personal slide downward ......but at least lets not add further injury or insult to them as they pass thru a mostly sad life.


I came from a very good and loving family and yet my younger brother got caught up in drugs and nothing we could do helped..he ended up on the streets..and died at 29 by his own hand.
We know little of his last 4 years but I hope he was not mistreated by others.
Thanks for this post Gil, may your brother RIP.
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Hey all you bleeding heart - do on to other people.

There is a major road project up the road that will hire anybody that can lift a shovel. Guess how many of those bums got of there ass and got a job. Very few.

I bust my ass 50+ hours a week and pay the taxes that built the park. I guess it's to much to ask to eat a sandwich in peace without stinky bums aggressively asking me for money. They don't want food. They want money to buy drugs.

Also I didn't do it,
a young kid did. But I don't blame him.

They messed with him so he messed with them. It's not like anyone died..Jesus people.

When your bad habits affect other people it's not OK on my book.
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I think we are all glad the group beatings of homeless people stopped being cool
That was one of the stranger fads to hit America
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Originally Posted by lazyboi1212 View Post
Hey all you bleeding heart - do on to other people.

There is a major road project up the road that will hire anybody that can lift a shovel. Guess how many of those bums got of there ass and got a job. Very few.

I bust my ass 50+ hours a week and pay the taxes that built the park. I guess it's to much to ask to eat a sandwich in peace without stinky bums aggressively asking me for money. They don't want food. They want money to buy drugs.

Also I didn't do it,
a young kid did. But I don't blame him.

They messed with him so he messed with them. It's not like anyone died..Jesus people.

When your bad habits affect other people it's not OK on my book.
If they were aggressively harassing him immediately prior to this, and he was escaping, I'm completely with you. If it was something else, such as pent up frustration, it was a dick move.
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In NYC the bums used to hang out on the corners with squeegees and wash your windshield for a donation. I thought it was great. My windshield would be covered with bug shit from the two hour drive on I-87 and here was somebody washing it off while you wait for the light. It was easily worth a dollar. When Rudy Giuliani ran for mayor he made it a campaign promise to get rid of them. So instead they would just knock on your window and ask for a dollar.
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Originally Posted by atcfris View Post
It won't stop, not as long as compassion and humanity are turned a blind eye to.
///not to gut-punch, but aren't these words coming from a guy that's going to live in a perfect first-world condition that's just across the water from starvation existence people?

Strikes me as a rather aloof, other-worldly, commentary, if you make career moves that keep you away from inner-city blues.

Please correct me and my wine if I've lost your train of thought about us being our brother's keeper, but don't want to live on the same island with them. ;?
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In NYC the bums used to hang out on the corners with squeegees and wash your windshield for a donation. I thought it was great. My windshield would be covered with bug shit from the two hour drive on I-87 and here was somebody washing it off while you wait for the light. It was easily worth a dollar. When Rudy Giuliani ran for mayor he made it a campaign promise to get rid of them. So instead they would just knock on your window and ask for a dollar.

I remember a totally different version of that enterprise, which was that we'd be in traffic near Wall Street to China Town and a person came to our car and posed the question.......".....I'll clean your windshield for $2, or leave it be for $1". They always got the dollar if we were in traffic, since their cleaners........er, weren't clean.
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